White Flight Article.... (Atlanta, Washington, Norwood: section 8, 2015, high crime)

[gt6974a]

Originally Posted by Merin

I live in the city and there are tons of people with children who have no intention of moving to the burbs.

What n-hood? what's avg price of home? what's avg square feet? what's avg lot size? what schools?

[martarider]

Originally Posted by MMANN

I wonder if the current political mahcine will try the opposite by annexing areas south of the city to keep the makeup majority black. I also wonder if they are doing anything "under the table" to keep the city majority black.

Something like this perhaps

Atlanta offers new batch of affordable housing incentives for developers | Fresh Loaf

[Merin]

Originally Posted by gt6974a

What n-hood? what's avg price of home? what's avg square feet? what's avg lot size? what schools?

The Grant Park area, the prices and sizes vary, but for the most part its not cheap. In my case our budget was around 450K( we ended up spending less). I remember a ton of parents , with 1 year olds, going to the principle of the local elementary school asking what they needed to do to improve the school. There are also two very popular charter schools in the area.

[Scraper Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by atlantagreg30127

Basically, you have people from all over the U.S. moving here, be it from Omaha to L.A. to Seattle, and some from predominately Black areas like Detroit or Baltimore, but simply by what you see in these forums (among others) online indicate that more are coming here from predominately White areas. Also, since the Olympics, Atlanta has seen a large increase in foreigners moving here. Mexico, U.K., Germany - predominately White relocators, and while there is an increase in people from places like Kenya, The Bahamas, etc., they're relatively small in comparison.

Just an observation myself, and from a conversation or two with realtors I know, but it does seem like White or "other" are moving here more than Black lately.

It did seem that a ton of blacks moved to metro Atlanta in the late 90s up until about 2005. It does seem like it's slowed down a bit.

[gt6974a]

Originally Posted by Merin

The Grant Park area, the prices and sizes vary, but for the most part its not cheap. In my case our budget was around 450K( we ended up spending less). I remember a ton of parents , with 1 year olds, going to the principle of the local elementary school asking what they needed to do to improve the school. There are also two very popular charter schools in the area.

I have a buddy that lives on the East side of Grant Park off of Confederate and a co-worker that lives on the West side b/t the park and the stadium

Both their homes were affordable, newer, but very small, no real yard, and tons of crime. Again, I can't speak for the schools, but the high crime rate is ridiculous.

[Merin]

Originally Posted by gt6974a

I have a buddy that lives on the East side of Grant Park off of Confederate and a co-worker that lives on the West side b/t the park and the stadium

Both their homes were affordable, newer, but very small, no real yard, and tons of crime. Again, I can't speak for the schools, but the high crime rate is ridiculous.

The area near the Stadium is Summerhill or Peoplestown. Yes there is alot of crime there and the houses cost alot less. Those on Confederate have issues due to a certain apartment complex. I live in a moderate sized newer house with an OK yard, and again my house wasn't cheap. There have been break ins but the crime isn't horrible. Nevertheless, I am at the Park a lot and frequently socialize with other homeowners in the area. We aren't moving. I am sorry that your friend moved closer to the Stadium, it must be wild over there.

[masonbarge]

Originally Posted by gt6974a

I have a buddy that lives on the East side of Grant Park off of Confederate and a co-worker that lives on the West side b/t the park and the stadium

Both their homes were affordable, newer, but very small, no real yard, and tons of crime. Again, I can't speak for the schools, but the high crime rate is ridiculous.

IMHO, Grant Park is going to be a hard sell for gentrification, because of the huge buffer between it and the north side of town formed by I-20 and Memorial Drive. Even Kirkwood, north of I-20 but south of Edgewood/DeKalb Ave. (with the huge railroad switching yard) is struggling. There are still large areas of blighted houses more adjacent to better neighborhoods.

It does have some stuff going for it, most notably the park itself and some good Craftsman houses -- much nicer than the old shacks in say Cabbagetown, Old Fourth Ward and Reynoldstown. I saw a poll about a year ago that indicated the #1 architectural choice for a "dream house" in the US was a Craftsman style bungalow. I don't know how much validity it had, but I remembered it because it would be my personal choice.

Still, I don't see Grant Park really becoming a safe neighborhood for quite a while. Could be wrong.

[Merin]

Originally Posted by masonbarge

Still, I don't see Grant Park really becoming a safe neighborhood for quite a while. Could be wrong.

What is safe?

[masonbarge]

Originally Posted by Merin

What is safe?

I'd say less than 300 violent crimes per 100,000 people each year would be a reasonable rule of thumb. As exemplars, in 2005 Peachtree City was at 30, City of Atlanta overall around 1,600. Yes, there are some very unsafe areas in the City of Atlanta (although most neighborhoods are currently improving).

I saw a map like this for the entire city but I can't find it online.

GPS Data for Crime Risk Around Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta Georgia

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by masonbarge

I saw a map like this for the entire city but I can't find it online.

GPS Data for Crime Risk Around Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta Georgia

While this isn't the same thing, some folks might find it interesting:

Atlanta Crime Map - Showing Crime in Atlanta, GA - Crime Statistics - Crime Alerts - Crime Stops Here