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Old 10-15-2008, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Nevermind that if one were moved to write a letter about something, it should be to the Secret Service inquiring why it is that one can show up at a political rally an yell assassination attempts to the future President of the United States and not be detained adn questioned. It appears, based upon the comments up-thread, that few have the foggiest idea what Representative Lewis' statement actually said.

(Jesus Hussein Christ, folks... Teh Googles are only a tab away.)

Representative. Lewis' statement, in full.



The first three paragraphs are nothing more than a retelling of verifiable historical events. I can't imagine why that retelling would warrant "disagreement" (and yes, I'm fully aware of the penchant for alternative reality construction so common in Wingnutistan).

The final paragraph, however, is filled with Representative Lewis' opinion, an opinion that I happen to agree with (that riling up unhinged crowds with the nonsensical notion that Senator Obama is a "secret Muslim/Terrorist/Socialist," while remaining "cricket quiet" in the face of various assassination shout-outs from said crowd, is, in fact, dangerous), but ymmv. And, yes, I agree with Representative Lewis that we deserve better from our presidential and vice-presidential candidates. Again, you may consider fearmongering and demagogery just. friggin'. awesome! And, you're free to write a letter to Representative Lewis to that effect. Let us all know how that works out for you.

And, whatever your view of Representative Lewis (a view that, frankly, is painfully irrelevant unless you are one of his constituents), Senator McCain considers the Georgia Congressman to be one of the three "wise people" that he would rely on during a McCain administration, together with General Patreus and former eBay CEO Meg Whitfield--at least, that's what he said at Rick Warren's (televised) Saddlebrook Forum this summer--and specifically said that Lewis "... can teach us all a lot about the meanings of courage and commitment to causes greater than ourself." (sic)

Finally, why is this thread even on City-Data forums... since, you know, Lewis' statement has really nothing to do with city data?

Even more finally: please do not feed the trolls.

Finally, cubed: when we're through Not Leaving Children Behind (TM), can we go back and get some of the adults?
thank you for answer.I had to take 3days off of this post just to cool off so I would not feed the trolls and he knows who he is.Ignorance grows out of negativity.
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Old 10-15-2008, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Lewis just spoke to the news, 'I do not regret what I said, maybe I could have said it in a different way....'

I guess he could of said, 'Kill Whitey!'

Basically sums it up, typical Georgia Black Politicians.
These are typical Black politicians.
Michael Thurmond Labor State Commissioner
Thurburt Baker State Attorney General
Debnise Magette
David Scott
Herman Cain
Shirley Franklin
Lisa Borders
Kaseem Reid
Ivory Young
Horencia Tate
Vernon Jordan
Cheif Justice Leah Sears
Jude Robert Benham
2 other black supreme ocourt judes and many more BLACK politicians to list.Can you list as many "Typical"as you describe?Stop picking fight and focus on a solution to our countries poblems,not by keepin total.
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Old 10-15-2008, 06:43 PM
 
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These are typical Black politicians.
Michael Thurmond Labor State Commissioner
Thurburt Baker State Attorney General
Debnise Magette
David Scott
Herman Cain
Shirley Franklin
Lisa Borders
Kaseem Reid
Ivory Young
Horencia Tate
Vernon Jordan
Cheif Justice Leah Sears
Jude Robert Benham
2 other black supreme ocourt judes and many more BLACK politicians to list.Can you list as many "Typical"as you describe?Stop picking fight and focus on a solution to our countries poblems,not by keepin total.
You left out Cynthia McKinney
Herman Cain is not a politician nor a race baiter
Shirley Franklin is a race baiter so thanks for proving my point.
You left out the Dekalb Sheriff
Cobb Commissioner, Annette 'Voodoo' Kesting
Andrew Young, Shirley Franklin, and your great John Lewis for John Eaves Franklin, Lewis, Young on Fulton County chairman race: 'You think fighting off dogs and water hoses in the 60s was bad?' | Political Insider | ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2006/11/06/franklin_lewis_young_on_fulton.html - broken link)

Jesse Jackson's rainbow coalition threatening Braves b/c not enough African Americans on the Braves (need more White's on the Hawks?)
.........

I'm not picking fights, I'm pointing out facts, there's way more reverse racism in and around Atlanta and most definately in politics!
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:02 PM
 
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Can this topic go away. I honestly tried to vote out John Lewis because I he support Hillary Clinton when his entire district voted overwhelming Obama. He only changed his superdelegate vote when his constituents threaten to vote him out. Pandering is the worse attribute of a politician. Pandering is exactly what John Mcain is doing now that his poll numbers are slumping. Hearing white people use the word reverse racism is disingenious at best, as if they would switch places with the average black person to escape this injustice.
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:52 PM
 
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Hearing white people use the word reverse racism is disingenious at best,
See, you're allowed to say shiot like this if it's against White, try saying the same thing and replace 'White' with 'Black', then you'll understand my arguments. Hell, I'll show you:


Hearing black people use the word racism is disingenious at best,

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Old 10-15-2008, 08:52 PM
 
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Are there any actual pictures left showing the marchers with John Lewis defecating on the Selma bridge. I read where it was a helluva mess to clean up.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:56 PM
 
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See, you're allowed to say shiot like this if it's against White, try saying the same thing and replace 'White' with 'Black', then you'll understand my arguments. Hell, I'll show you:


Hearing black people use the word racism is disingenious at best,
You should include the entire sentence. Your sentence should read. "Hearing black people use the word racism is disinenious at best, it not like the average black person would rather be white to escape this injustice"

I'm sure my friend you would find far more blacks willing to escape racism by becoming white, than you would find whites willing to change races to escape "reverse" racism.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:22 PM
 
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You should include the entire sentence. Your sentence should read. "Hearing black people use the word racism is disinenious at best, it not like the average black person would rather be white to escape this injustice"

I'm sure my friend you would find far more blacks willing to escape racism by becoming white, than you would find whites willing to change races to escape "reverse" racism.
I included the comma, the comma suggest two different thoughts. I only needed to quote the first one to get my point across. The second thought has nothing to do with the first in the context I was describing. The fact that you can't interchange the subject.

If that was the case, I would have included the second thought.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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You left out Cynthia McKinney
Herman Cain is not a politician nor a race baiter
Shirley Franklin is a race baiter so thanks for proving my point.
You left out the Dekalb Sheriff
Cobb Commissioner, Annette 'Voodoo' Kesting
Andrew Young, Shirley Franklin, and your great John Lewis for John Eaves Franklin, Lewis, Young on Fulton County chairman race: 'You think fighting off dogs and water hoses in the 60s was bad?' | Political Insider | ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2006/11/06/franklin_lewis_young_on_fulton.html - broken link)

Jesse Jackson's rainbow coalition threatening Braves b/c not enough African Americans on the Braves (need more White's on the Hawks?)
.........

I'm not picking fights, I'm pointing out facts, there's way more reverse racism in and around Atlanta and most definately in politics!
When were you discriminated from getting a job or a promotion?When had you ever had to appear more than overly friendly as to not appear as a "non-threatening black male to a white majority.I guess me bringing any of my past incidents of racism that PERSONALLY hurt me physically and mentally matters.Im a racist because OMG YOU dont wanna hear my problems.People I thought I knew, over hearing them talking in racial slurs about people of my race instead of just describing them as humans.The difference between people who are offended by the idea of racism vs those who experience it on a day to day basis,is the difference between many whites and blacks.The idea of racism to you is the very mention of someone who brings it up because YOU may want to forget it or feel its uncomfortable because maybe YOU personnally were not involved.I and other blacks understand that most white people are not RACIST but many are PREJUDICED.When you are prejudiced it means you have a preference for something versus the other.Some Blacks are PREJUDICED as well.However when you have the history that this country has and when you are the majority who controls the lives of the minority by your lead in economic wealth,controlling the countries institutions,from the jails to the schools and with a large segment of the population starting out from behind and still behind,it is not illogical that something has to happen where things are more equall.You cannot blame all this on just people not taking personal responsibility for their lives.Not one race superior over the other,but EQUALL.The majority of black people are not complaining about half the stuff we deal with as minorities.

YOu obviously have not talked to most black people because Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton both have low approval raitings(among Blacks) and most of us do not see their relevance any more.We mostly see them as relecs of the past.However just because John Lewis speaks out because he looks out in a audience(rally) and sees a 95 percent white and southern "NASCAR" types in 2008 calling him a "terrorist" as he did when he was watchin those same rallies or he was there being hit by bricks in the head or walking with his friend MLK jr as he is shot 2 feet in front of him in the 60's.No I think it bothered him and worried him, he made an off the cuff remark .He never called anyone George Wallace and you know it.Just like when those guys ,although wrong,but not unfair in politics, involved Shirley Franklin .Most blacks and whites in the city praise her for bridging the gap between blacks and whites in the city.It's not just a coincidence that more whites are moving in the city of Atlanta at the highest rate of any city in the U.S.Seems you are hung up on phrasing and we black people are hung up on actions.If racism is just name calling,trust me we can handle that.The remark attributed to those canidates are not any more offensive than a potential vice president calling an american a Terrorist(someone who terroizes by force).Those people in those rallies are calling Barack every name in the book.You do not hear any of the same caliber of derogatory remarks at a Obama rally.
You think you know what racism is but you do not.By your standard if I call you a terrorist then i must be a terrorist.So if Shirley Franklin calls you a racist then she's a racist?What?Call me when a law is past denying your rights by majority black person.You are just fanning the flames because you don't have a clue so its easy for you to wrap every person/politician of color call it fact with no real figures to show other than your BELIEF.That is being PREJUDICED.

Herman Cain ran for senate and is being courted to run for Governor orother positions for the republican party.He is a politician.
I mentioned the ones that I knew you would not and Jesse Jackson is not from Georgia.You stll however did not back up your "typical" comment.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Are there any actual pictures left showing the marchers with John Lewis defecating on the Selma bridge. I read where it was a helluva mess to clean up.
Thank you for proving my point.Just Rude.
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