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Old 11-11-2008, 07:23 AM
 
Location: downtown
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I am really disappointed in our Senators, Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isaakson. Seems to me they spent too much time compromising with Democrats and not enough time fighting and defeating them. I like the way Boehner came out swinging sometimes, and I am starting to look at how Jeff Sessions has reacted to a lot of socialism, that even Republican George Bush has adopted. I could easier see living in Alabama than Ohio. It is a shame I have to move from state to state to escape communism, and find senators that represent the rights of states and citizens to live free.
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:53 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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We all know that Obama is relatively new, but based on his track records we can infer that he has sound judgment and is a very capable man to lead this country. Through his career life he has contributed a lot to community and built from ground up. Just because people knew too much about his rival and didn't believe that his rival could handle all issues facing this nation, they picked Obama and vested their trust in him. As the first black president, I think he has ambition to be the best president ever in the history, and I also think he can do it. So long as a president listens to PEOPLE, realy PEOPLE, he will be successful. I think history has educated the nation and its people and made them more involved in politics and more knowledgible about issues. I see the hope of this great nation for its ability to stay strong and in its leadship for the world. It can only happen when we deviate from the wrong policies.

Wow, I'm sorry but this is a very misinformed quote. Once again, provide examples of what he has done. My mom is from Chicago, I have roots there and have met the Daleys and other members of their family (one cousin lives in Buckhead). Here is an example, just one, of Obama's change. Oh and btw, the first time he ever won an election in 96', he won because he was the only one on the ballot. How did he pull that off? Well you had to have 800 or so signatures to be on the ballot, most politicians made sure to get anywhere from 1400 to 1800 to be safe. Well Mr. Obama back stabbed the state senator that helped to bring him into politics in the first place Alice Palmer, by telling his campaign staff to scrutinize her's and everyone else's signatures to come up with some reason to have them invalidated. By the time he was done, he won by default. About this time he was interviewed by the Chicago Sun-Times about his platform, which was "change", and I quote, "It was a pretty convincing speech, I thought, although I'm not sure the people who heard me deliver it were similarly impressed, but enough of them appreciated my earnestness and youthful swagger that I made it to the Illinois legislature."

Now for my example of Obama cowtowing to other Chicago politcal thugs, and why we should be skeptical that he won't during the presidency. Around 04/05 when he was still a baby senator in Washignton, he made a trip back to his home of southside Chicago, and then went to a local high school to deliver a speech. Well at the Q&A (which he could have done town hall this election) many of the students were angered that their school day ended at 1:30. They wanted to learn and have more school, which of course is very legitimate considering in other parts of the country where taxes are much lower school lets out past 3 and people are happier Well the supposed issue that Obama talked about was the lack of funding for the education system and the fact that teachers were not paid enough, and as a senator he could fix all of that. Well little known fact, the average salary of a teacher in Chicago, and similar for Cook County was a whopping $83,000 with a quarter making over $100,000!!! Not paid enough? That was not the problem, the problem lied in the fact that all these teachers were part of the CTU (Chicago Teachers Union) which has donated a good amount to each and every Obama campaign barring his first. Well Obama cut a deal with the CTU, if they would take 5 whole days off the calendar, they would add 15 minutes to each day, that ended up coming to a 5 hour net increase of school. Of course Obama was not going to change things up because he owed them. Now you have Moveon.org, big leftist donors, and unions saying they each got him into office and now they owe him. Now we have a chance to break up the unions which are hurting the auto industry and the entire state of Michigan, but we are going to cowtow to them because of whose in office.

Change we can trust, oh there will be change, change to traditional America.

Judgement? Are you kidding me? You call it judgement when all of your high profile friends are radical thinkers and ex terrorists? And racists to boot? That to me sounds like indoctrination. When has he shown good judgement? Once again, examples need to be provided.
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Old 11-11-2008, 10:31 AM
 
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^President campaign is a kind of test run for a new president. He must have sound judgment and skills to lead his team before he can win election and lead the nation. A lot of my comments are in line with CNN's polical analysts and it's guest speakers. If you need to know examples of his contribution while he was a senator, you surely can find somewhere on the Internet. We don't know every detail of your examples which haven't been in media and I think these details comparing to the nation's top priorities are trivia. We are focusing on national security, economy, foreign policies and etc. This country is on the wrong track. It's hurting.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:08 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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They havent been in the media because we all know that the media had it in the bag for Obama! And that has been proven most recently by a joint UCLA?Univ MO study. The only right wing media outlets were Brit Hume's Special Report on Fox News and the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal. The rest were either neutral (only Fox as a whole, 40 negatives for Obama, 40 for McCain) or left leaning. If you get all your news from CNN political analysts you are being taken for a fool! I cannot find anything to my liking about Obama's policies on the net, most are way too extreme for me. Mostly, actually, are nonexistent since most of his voting record is voting present, which is essentially a "no". His campaign blew McCain's out of the water, and that is the only positive thing I can say for Obama. I know his record, most do not, I have seen his judgement, and I conclude that it is very bad. Here are some of your liberal friends essentially running scared now that they helped get him elected.

From the ultra lib Newsweek Magazine:

Barack Obama: How He Did It | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com
Newsweek’s Thomas: ‘Slightly Creepy Cult of Personality’ Around Obama | NewsBusters.org
Hot Air » Blog Archive » Newsweek editor: Obama’s cult of personality is “slightly creepy,” isn’t it?

Newsweek analysts are actually calling Obama creepy, and a creature, an invented persona. "Look at him watching us watch him" about him on "ascending" on stage delivering his speech alone in Grant Park without wife and kids.

Then here is the ultra lib Tom Brokaw who was so excited about Obama before, now he is expressing fear on the Charlie Rose show on PBS. BTW for how one sided and liberal PBS is, our hard earned taxed dollars are funding this, but this particular show was good because it confirms everything conservatives have been saying for a good while. Brokaw is worried because he essentially does not know Obama's agenda, but many of us do, and it is not a good one. Here it is:

A conversation with Tom Brokaw - Charlie Rose
and if you want to cut to the chase to the all important quotes, hate to show my partisanship (not to republicans but to conservatives), just take it from Rush.
Drive-By Fear: Who is Obama?

and scroll down middle of page

This is all you need to see here CityFan, that you have been duped. You actually fell for all the rhetoric, arm yourself with the truth and the facts and this will not happen to you again.
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Old 11-11-2008, 11:46 AM
 
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^The only thing I can say is we shall see when Obama brings good things to this nation and its people. The truth has already come out, but you can't see it. Throw your "conservative" or "liberal" out of the window. No one will pay any attention to your hear say. We trust our media because we are paying for it. It's time to move on with our newly elected president. He will write American History for its good. .
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:26 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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^The only thing I can say is we shall see when Obama brings good things to this nation and its people. The truth has already come out, but you can't see it. Throw your "conservative" or "liberal" out of the window. No one will pay any attention to your hear say. We trust our media because we are paying for it. It's time to move on with our newly elected president. He will write American History for its good. .
Please explain that statement, because frankly it sounds dangerously naive.
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Old 11-11-2008, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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^The only thing I can say is we shall see when Obama brings good things to this nation and its people. The truth has already come out, but you can't see it. Throw your "conservative" or "liberal" out of the window. No one will pay any attention to your hear say. We trust our media because we are paying for it. It's time to move on with our newly elected president. He will write American History for its good. .
Why is it that when a Democrat wins the White House, it's a transformational event, and all Americans are supposed to rally around the new President and sing Kumbaya? Where were these calls for bipartisan cooperation and peace and love in 2000 and 2004? Why didn't we "throw liberal and conservative out the window" then or even after 9/11/01? It's funny how once the Democrats win an election, they just expect the world to stop and the opposition to lay down for the Messiah. Sorry...ain't gonna happen.

Congratulations to the new President-elect, but he will face an opposition party and a public that will keep their eyes on his policies and his actions. When he acts in the country's interest, I'll have his back. If he or his Congressional buddies go too far, and try to do things that I believe to be harmful to me, my family, or my country, I will vigorously oppose him, as will many.
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:35 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Neil0311, if you cant tell already, it is one giant double standard. So many libs talk about freedom of speech and creativity and the right to voice different opinions, but they certainly are not referring to opinions that differ from their's. It is just one big cockameme scheme. It is a party where many members are unfortunately as naive as CityFan. All I asked of him (or to be PC him/her) was to provide examples and facts, he still did not understand that request. English is a liberal's second language, rhetoric being the first.
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Old 11-12-2008, 12:46 AM
 
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They havent been in the media because we all know that the media had it in the bag for Obama! And that has been proven most recently by a joint UCLA?Univ MO study. The only right wing media outlets were Brit Hume's Special Report on Fox News and the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal. The rest were either neutral (only Fox as a whole, 40 negatives for Obama, 40 for McCain) or left leaning. If you get all your news from CNN political analysts you are being taken for a fool! I cannot find anything to my liking about Obama's policies on the net, most are way too extreme for me. Mostly, actually, are nonexistent since most of his voting record is voting present, which is essentially a "no". His campaign blew McCain's out of the water, and that is the only positive thing I can say for Obama. I know his record, most do not, I have seen his judgement, and I conclude that it is very bad. Here are some of your liberal friends essentially running scared now that they helped get him elected.

From the ultra lib Newsweek Magazine:

Barack Obama: How He Did It | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008 | Newsweek.com
Newsweek’s Thomas: ‘Slightly Creepy Cult of Personality’ Around Obama | NewsBusters.org
Hot Air » Blog Archive » Newsweek editor: Obama’s cult of personality is “slightly creepy,” isn’t it?

Newsweek analysts are actually calling Obama creepy, and a creature, an invented persona. "Look at him watching us watch him" about him on "ascending" on stage delivering his speech alone in Grant Park without wife and kids.

Then here is the ultra lib Tom Brokaw who was so excited about Obama before, now he is expressing fear on the Charlie Rose show on PBS. BTW for how one sided and liberal PBS is, our hard earned taxed dollars are funding this, but this particular show was good because it confirms everything conservatives have been saying for a good while. Brokaw is worried because he essentially does not know Obama's agenda, but many of us do, and it is not a good one. Here it is:

A conversation with Tom Brokaw - Charlie Rose
and if you want to cut to the chase to the all important quotes, hate to show my partisanship (not to republicans but to conservatives), just take it from Rush.
Drive-By Fear: Who is Obama?

and scroll down middle of page

This is all you need to see here CityFan, that you have been duped. You actually fell for all the rhetoric, arm yourself with the truth and the facts and this will not happen to you again.
Good post and great links, jsimms. As poster on here put it (Saintmarks), the American Idolization of our country/people is now complete. I am disappointed that people actually fell for the "personality ethic" of Obama.

I've always thought I was an optimist, but now I'm fearful and disheartened. I watched our country get "duped" for nearly a year and a half (I was living out of the country for several years prior).

Time to move back overseas...
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Old 11-12-2008, 05:17 AM
 
Location: East Cobb
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Why is it that when a Democrat wins the White House, it's a transformational event, and all Americans are supposed to rally around the new President and sing Kumbaya? Where were these calls for bipartisan cooperation and peace and love in 2000 and 2004?
There are so many harsh, and in some cases, ludicrous, comments about liberals on this thread that I am inclined to respond bluntly. The answer to your question is easy. When you Republican sheep elected a moron whose henchman were out to subvert the Constitution, it wasn't an event for rejoicing.
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