06-24-2009, 09:11 PM
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I am very interested in everything you have to say! I will look into the area and send you a message to inquire if you don't mind?
I don't mind. I work full time and we have only one computer so it might take a bit for me to respond.
06-25-2009, 12:04 PM
Location: Atlanta/DC
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Okay. I just had to reply to the notion that it's too expensive to do things with kids here.
06-25-2009, 06:15 PM
Location: ATL suburb
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Okay. I just had to reply to the notion that it's too expensive to do things with kids here.
Yes, you can find great deals on ATL activities if you know where to look. (I love Atlanta on the Cheap). However, based on my experience in another city, on those free days at the zoo or the children's museum, there's an abundance of, well, less desirable clientele. I'd rather pay full price. Interestingly, these people never went to the science or art museums on the free days. But Atlanta doesn't seem to have nearly the amount of days available either free or at a significant discount. Even at a discount, paying for 4 people adds up really fast. I can easily find affordable things to do with my family, but it still requires at least some money; money that one probably doesn't have bringing in only 2Gs a month.
06-25-2009, 09:44 PM
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The only way to do that is to sacrify the size or your house or the neighborhood. Many of the houses that have decentable hosing prices are in not so good areas. Atlanta has a very high crime rate so its not really even safe in suburbs, because now people are targeting for nicer neighborhoods. Also if you move into a suburb you will have to make your money strech very long. Also you will have a very long commute time. Get realistic, Atlanta have some of the worse traffic in the US.
06-26-2009, 06:17 AM
Location: Atlanta, GA (Dunwoody)
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However, based on my experience in another city, on those free days at the zoo or the children's museum, there's an abundance of, well, less desirable clientele. But Atlanta doesn't seem to have nearly the amount of days available either free or at a significant discount.
That's been my experience as well, at least at the Children's Museum. And, you're right, Atlanta has A LOT fewer free, or discounted days than other cities of the same or larger size. Certainly it doesn't compare to Chicago. I keep saying this, but Atlanta really should have a sign at the entrance that says "No City for Poor People.'
06-26-2009, 07:25 AM
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Ok, nothing personal but seems you don't like Atlanta at all(and I wouldnt compare it to Chicago anyways which would certainly be more expensive). Some one mentions a way you can go to all these venues for FREE and its still not good enough because there might be people there you don't want to be around. I don't get it. First you want free and now its a problem.
Please understand I am not attacking anyone but just hate to see nothing but negative about the city I decided to move to and enjoy living in. Having looked at other cities forums I know it is not just Atlanta but other places too, including the city I moved from.
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That's been my experience as well, at least at the Children's Museum. And, you're right, Atlanta has A LOT fewer free, or discounted days than other cities of the same or larger size. Certainly it doesn't compare to Chicago. I keep saying this, but Atlanta really should have a sign at the entrance that says "No City for Poor People.'
06-26-2009, 07:42 AM
Location: Atlanta, GA (Dunwoody)
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Uh no, I don't like Atlanta. I thought I made that clear from the beginning. I've lived next door to Atlanta all my life. Came here a few dozen times a year for much of my life, primarily for shopping. Lived here for six months right after the Olympics. Boy was that a little slice of hell I don't ever want to revisit. I know Atlanta. Have known it for nearly 40 years. And no I don't like it and never have. I'm here for the same reason a lot of people came here: A job. As soon as we are able to recoup our equity and find somewhere else to live, we're out. Are we clear now?
I never said I wanted free. I said I wanted options for family-friendly entertainment that wouldn't bankrupt you. There are more family-friendly options in Chicago because they have more discounted and free days. That way everyone isn't trying to crowd in on the one day per month that they have discounts and free days.
As I've said, Atlanta has many fabulous things about it. I enjoy the shopping and availability of things. However, if you come here on a limited budget, and in the OP's case a VERY limited budget, you can get in trouble very quickly. I've seen it happen to plenty of people who bought into the myth of Atlanta's 'affordability.' The question that has to be asked is affordable for whom?
I'm sorry if you find that offensive for some obscure reason that I don't understand. But facts are facts. Move here from the Northeast or California with plenty of money and equity, then yes, it's a great town. Otherwise? Not so much.
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Ok, nothing personal but seems you don't like Atlanta at all(and I wouldnt compare it to Chicago anyways which would certainly be more expensive). Some one mentions a way you can go to all these venues for FREE and its still not good enough because there might be people there you don't want to be around. I don't get it. First you want free and now its a problem.
06-28-2009, 12:20 AM
Location: Metro Atlanta
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Don't come to Atlanta without a Job lined up!!!
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christosNY
I may relocate with a wife and two kids to the area. We would only net $2,000 per month.
It is not easy to get a job here. This has been true even before this economic downturn. You could find a place to live on 2K a month but that will entail major belt-tightening. Child care is very expensive here also.
Good luck!
06-28-2009, 05:33 AM
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Coming from a smaller town, although bigger I think then where the Op would be coming from I found Atlanta a much easier place to find a job and found a good job quickly. I am not saying it is easy or a given, just like any new place you move to but it did work well for me.
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It is not easy to get a job here. This has been true even before this economic downturn. You could find a place to live on 2K a month but that will entail major belt-tightening. Child care is very expensive here also.
06-29-2009, 11:35 AM
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Coming from a smaller town, although bigger I think then where the Op would be coming from I found Atlanta a much easier place to find a job and found a good job quickly. I am not saying it is easy or a given, just like any new place you move to but it did work well for me.
When did you move here, though? Things have gone downhill in a serious way on the job front over the past year or two...
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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