08-18-2009, 02:25 AM
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So, I guess the way things work is that you hate someone one and then that hate materializes into a force that adversely affects someone's well being. My question is, if it doesnt do any good than why watse your energy with it. Idiots.
08-18-2009, 09:35 AM
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As I said I hope he gets on with his life and has learned from his mistake but I am intrigued by the correlation made between illegal dog fighting and hunting, that is really bizarre . Also by what is considered to be hunting, another bizarre statement. I really wonder where that kind of justification comes from.
You truly find it BIZARRE that someone would compare dog fighting with hunting? I understand you don't agree with the comparison but you find no logic behind the comparison? At the most fundamental level, animals are being killed for human enjoyment in both scenarios. Is hunting wolves from a helicopter or shooting a deer with an arrow and tracking the blood while it slowly dies SO different from two dogs fighting that the comparison is "bizzare"? I mean, c'mon... certainly the humane society and PETA would disagree with you that there is no equivalence there. In my mind, the one difference is that dogs are domesticated and the targets of hunters are not; as a result, there is a cultural acceptance of one form of slaughter over the other. Let's not bury our heads and pretend that there is nothing to this line of thinking.
08-18-2009, 09:41 AM
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So, I guess the way things work is that you hate someone one and then that hate materializes into a force that adversely affects someone's well being. My question is, if it doesnt do any good than why watse your energy with it. Idiots .
Yeah or call people names
08-18-2009, 10:27 AM
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You truly find it BIZARRE that someone would compare dog fighting with hunting? I understand you don't agree with the comparison but you find no logic behind the comparison? At the most fundamental level, animals are being killed for human enjoyment in both scenarios. Is hunting wolves from a helicopter or shooting a deer with an arrow and tracking the blood while it slowly dies SO different from two dogs fighting that the comparison is "bizzare"? I mean, c'mon... certainly the humane society and PETA would disagree with you that there is no equivalence there. In my mind, the one difference is that dogs are domesticated and the targets of hunters are not; as a result, there is a cultural acceptance of one form of slaughter over the other. Let's not bury our heads and pretend that there is nothing to this line of thinking.
PETA call fish "sea kittens" so I have to say I cannot take them seriously in any way. The idea in hunting is to achieve a quick kill, dog fighting is nothing like that, and preparing the dog by shocking it and beating it is certainly not like preparing for hunting, so yes the comparison is bizarre.
Sea kitten and fries for dinner please.
08-18-2009, 07:35 PM
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Umm, I guess no one here is going to the game.
08-19-2009, 09:16 AM
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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PETA call fish "sea kittens" so I have to say I cannot take them seriously in any way. The idea in hunting is to achieve a quick kill, dog fighting is nothing like that, and preparing the dog by shocking it and beating it is certainly not like preparing for hunting, so yes the comparison is bizarre.
What about Bull riding, where before the bull is released from the pen, they shock the bulls anus and testicles with an electric stick to get it all riled up so that when the pen opens the bull is basically a raving lunatic? And last time I checked, 90% of the cattle in America is domesticated just like dogs, so what is the difference there? Bull riding is very legal, it even comes on ESPN. And dont even get me started on Bull fighting!!!! The social elite of Europe sit up in boxes and sip VOSS bottled water while watching a matador play around with a Bull for a while until he kills it by basically gutting it. Wow, what a crazy world we live in. 2012 can not come fast enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08-19-2009, 10:31 AM
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What about Bull riding, where before the bull is released from the pen, they shock the bulls anus and testicles with an electric stick to get it all riled up so that when the pen opens the bull is basically a raving lunatic? And last time I checked, 90% of the cattle in America is domesticated just like dogs, so what is the difference there? Bull riding is very legal, it even comes on ESPN. And dont even get me started on Bull fighting!!!! The social elite of Europe sit up in boxes and sip VOSS bottled water while watching a matador play around with a Bull for a while until he kills it by basically gutting it. Wow, what a crazy world we live in. 2012 can not come fast enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree about bull riding and bull fighting, 2012? You don't believe that old tosh do you?
08-19-2009, 10:39 AM
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
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I agree about bull riding and bull fighting, 2012? You don't believe that old tosh do you?
LOL, what does "tosh" mean?? And no I dont believe the world will end, but I do think a fundamental shift in the way people view the world and each other will happen, or at least I hope so.
08-19-2009, 10:41 AM
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PETA call fish "sea kittens" so I have to say I cannot take them seriously in any way. The idea in hunting is to achieve a quick kill, dog fighting is nothing like that, and preparing the dog by shocking it and beating it is certainly not like preparing for hunting, so yes the comparison is bizarre.
The point is that you think the difference between the fight and a "quick kill" is significant. Many others do not and I don't think it's a bizarre position to hold. At the end of the day, animals are being killed for support... there are degrees involved of course but the ultimate fate is the same.
08-19-2009, 10:44 AM
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The point is that you think the difference between the fight and a "quick kill" is significant. Many others do not and I don't think it's a bizarre position to hold. At the end of the day, animals are being killed for support... there are degrees involved of course but the ultimate fate is the same.
Animals are killed for food too, I eat what I hunt and if I am not certain of the shot then it doesn't happen, by the way I think you mean sport.
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Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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