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Old 01-27-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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One more positive for the "new" streetcar system is that most of the city proper was designed around a streetcar system. The streets and neighborhoods won't have to be reconfigured.
Absolutely, waronxmas.

The big curve in front of the Ponce Apartments on Peachtree, the cool little business districts like V-H and Little 5 and our wonderful bungalow neighborhoods all are a reflection of that!
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:09 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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Absolutely, waronxmas.

The big curve in front of the Ponce Apartments on Peachtree, the cool little business districts like V-H and Little 5 and our wonderful bungalow neighborhoods all are a reflection of that!
Yup. I was trying to find the proper name for them, streetcar roundabouts I believe, but you are right. There are literally at dozens, if not hundreds, of intersections around the city. The routes of the old streetcar lines are still pretty much the same main thoroughfares today. Get some money, drop some rail and overhead electrical lines and voila!
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Old 01-27-2010, 12:11 PM
 
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One more positive for the "new" streetcar system is that most of the city proper was designed around a streetcar system. The streets and neighborhoods won't have to be reconfigured.
That's an excellent point. Many times we read that Atlanta is cursed with traffic and sprawl due to the city growing up in the automobile age, but many early intown neighborhoods were built on streetcar lines -- on routes that still exist today as roads.
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:06 PM
 
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In addition to carrot's great response, developers LOVE streetcars. So do people that would never step foot on a bus (unfortunate, but true).

Laying rail attracts good development, and can truly transform entire sections of a city.

Streetcars have been credited with transforming one of the worst sections of Downtown Portland into a booming, sought-after neighborhood. Portland's Pearl District: Explore shopping, dining, galleries and more.

There's the "permanency" aspect of streetcars as well--a bus route can be easily changed; a streetcar route cannot (and/or will not).


This is very appealing to developers and caring residents alike.
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I hope so too, and thanks for posting this!

I'm feeling a little more upbeat about the area than usual, thanks to this unexpected development.

Now, if we could just get the vote moved up to 2010 instead of 2012, we might just be in business.
You are very welcome!

I think this is all very encouraging. I think that maybe this time we can actually start to see some change. I think we are approaching critical mass, and to stay competitive we need to spend money to support our quality of life.
What I am really hoping for is a few commuter lines. I have an interview for a new job downtown, and I am not looking forward to that hypothetical commute! However, one commuter line would supposedly go down 29, and there would be a station at Ronald Reagan Parkway. If I'm still there, and in this house in 20 years, I might see it!
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:33 PM
 
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I guess street cars are good as long as the entire road isnt closed off to traffic. Buffalo, NY made the mistake of restricting Main St in downtown to the light rail exclusively. That meant no car traffic. Ultimately that led to businesses along the route shutting down and essentially a ghost town at times.

But if the street car shares the road with cars like San Fran and Denver, then it can definitely do well. That assumes more ppl ride the rail and less cars are on the road. Otherwise its just another jam.
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I guess street cars are good as long as the entire road isnt closed off to traffic. Buffalo, NY made the mistake of restricting Main St in downtown to the light rail exclusively. That meant no car traffic. Ultimately that led to businesses along the route shutting down and essentially a ghost town at times.

But if the street car shares the road with cars like San Fran and Denver, then it can definitely do well. That assumes more ppl ride the rail and less cars are on the road. Otherwise its just another jam.
I don't think that anyone has a plan to close the entire length of Peachtree St......
It would be dual use by cars and streetcars.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Well it ain't all good.....

As little as $750,000 for Georgia on high-speed rail | Gold Dome Live
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:09 AM
 
Location: Acworth
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i'll actually drive there so i can ride the tram. and by tram i mean a real tram like this:



and not this tourist attraction:



but neither will happen. instead we will have more taxes to pay for more toll lanes. yaay
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Old 01-28-2010, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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And we all know why this happened.............

I am SO GLAD that every single public servant in Georgia is up for re-election this year. It's time to clean house, folks!
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