05-29-2010, 09:39 AM
Location: Tyrone, GA
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this is a question of financial planning. simple answer, if you can't afford private school, then don't do it. same as asking how can people afford to buy Lamborghini's for their kids? the question one should ask is how motivated are you to afford such luxuries.
my first 2 kids went to private schools. as the next 2 came, we knew it was impossible to continue private schools for all of them. so we sold our home and moved to a location where we could still maintain our lifestyle and not sacrifice the kid's education.
remember one thing, the kids learn more at home than they do at school.
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05-29-2010, 11:16 AM
Location: South Fulton
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Hi alex.
We *can* afford it. It's just the reality has hit me about how much money it really is. We will have to decide as a family what's really important to us.
What do people really mean when you all say "most education is done at home". I mean we'll help will homework and provide extra enrichment at home, do museums, travel, etc. But I'm thinking that in terms of the actual curriculum education, we can't possibly teach all of that home. So I think I must be missing your point on that one. Can you explain what you mean?
05-29-2010, 11:32 AM
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Some of the ways we afford private school for 2 kids:
We don't have tv (hence no cable or satellite bills). Our kids pack their own brown bag lunches instead of us paying for their private school meal plan. We don't take vacations (but do budget for school trips). We don't subscribe to any magazines or newpapers (we read online). We eat out only on birthdays. We shop for clothes at Target (sometimes Goodwill). We don't buy back-to-school anything. Each family member has 3 pairs of shoes (not dozens). Backpacks are used for multiple years. We don't ever "go shopping" at malls as an activity. We use the public library instead of buying books. We wait for movies to come out on DVD. We conserve gasoline as much as possible and we don't drive fancy cars. We are practically Amish when it comes to buying new technology (we are very late adopters). We don't have a housekeeper and we do our own lawn. We only buy grocery store brands and love food mark-downs. We don't buy bottled water. We don't have gym memberships. We avoid impulse shopping for anything. We are excited by free or low-cost activities (like the lectures or concerts at Emory University which are open to the public).
The list goes on and on.
Our priorities are education, not stuff.
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05-29-2010, 01:09 PM
Location: Tyrone, GA
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Vlias
Hi alex.
We *can* afford it. It's just the reality has hit me about how much money it really is. We will have to decide as a family what's really important to us.
What do people really mean when you all say "most education is done at home". I mean we'll help will homework and provide extra enrichment at home, do museums, travel, etc. But I'm thinking that in terms of the actual curriculum education, we can't possibly teach all of that home. So I think I must be missing your point on that one. Can you explain what you mean?
their desire to learn starts at home. we taught our children how to read and basic math before it was taught in school. simple math drills are done while driving around doing errands. story time with the kids then afterward they read the stories to us. they get to watch as much tv or play whatever video games they want since studying has already been part of their routine. there are things that can't be done at home, such as learning to socialize with peers and lab experiments. don't forget about religion. although i'm catholic and my wife is protestant, we introduced our children to various types of religious beliefs (mostly because of our diverse friends and co-workers). we leave it up to them to decide which religion they prefer.
in the past, my wife yelled at me when i taught my then 6 year old binary math and played multi-syllable word games. by the time she was in middle-school, she tested at college level reading/comp/english. unfortunately, even though her math grades are high, she has no interest in the sciences. she is entering senior in HS.
as others mentioned, there are good public schools. we decided on fayette county schools. i should also add that one of my son has aspergers/adhd and was home schooled (when we lived in Florida). he has attended a private special needs school here in GA and will be entering public middle school this year. he has progressed to the point of no longer requiring medication.
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05-30-2010, 06:29 PM
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Okay I finally have a minute to reply. Our DD is an auditory learner, which means basically she is a traditional classroom type kid. The teacher gives the lesson, the practice session, et al and DD has got it. She learns that way (we think). I have read alot of books about learning styles etc. and one of the advantages of a small private school is you can really get some good feedback on how your individual child learns. Also a benefit of the smaller class size -- because DD is fairly able (I am not saying she is gifted, we don't think she is) to pick up on the information presented in the classroom, practice it (via in class and homework) and then successfully pass the test. We have figured out that she is alot like DH in learning style and how she processes information. In order for her to learn she must be in class absorbing the information. Because the teacher only has 18 kids to worry about she can pretty much individually asses each one on a regular basis.
We missed a week in Kindy because we voluntarily kept her out that week on a family vacation and it immediately showed. It was truly amazing. One week of missed class time resulted in a 10-20 point drop on a test score on that particular area that was covered in class for that week. It just reinforced to us that she needs to be in class, every day, all time. This is not true for every child I know. However in a public school setting I don't think we would have gotten the feedback we need to determine how our DD learns. I have visited our local elementary school many times. My good friend and neighbor loves our local elementary school--which for Cobb County I would consider average -- not great like some of East Cobb schools and not even the best of the best in West Cobb (we are in West Cobb) but definitely very average. My neighbor and friend invites us frequently to events and things at this school. The difference in the attitude both of teachers and kids is amazing and honestly the public school kids and teachers are good -- there is nothing wrong with them.
But there is a difference -- especially in how the kids treat each other. Case in point, my same neighbor is sending her rising 6th grader to Trinity Chapel (a local school here in Powder Springs) versus Tapp Middle School. She and her DH toured Trinity and she immediately called me and said I now see exactly why you did what you did with your DD. I said to her, at the time DD was in Kindy and we made the private school choice, that I did not know how to explain the difference in what I saw and experienced (no kids up roaming the room, out in the halls, talking out of turn, et al) but since then I have realized the extent that teachers in our private school go to make sure everybody is included, that learning is happening and that each student is getting what he/she needs from the [SIZE=3]curriculum[/SIZE] . It is not perfect not by a long shot. I am a public school educated person from K-12 so I am not in anyway shape or form against good public education at all.
Take a good look at your kids. One may benefit to an extreme from a private school education, the other may thrive in a public school environment -- alot depends on the child, their personality and how they learn. Montessori, as good as it sounds, would not benefit (from what I now know) our DD in the least -- but for many children it is a great solution. Take a long hard look at each child in your family and you will probably find the answers you need.
05-30-2010, 06:40 PM
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Alex is right in terms of education begins at home. We started early and continue every day. It is all about the mindset. For instance, we have a 45 mintue commute to school (again a choice we made, I work at the same school DD attends). She is not allowed to watch DVD's she listens to audiobooks. Any book of her choosing (we have a Cobb County library card and their collection of audio books on tape and CD are awesome!). We have gone through all of Junie B Jones series, Magic Treehouse, et al. We are working on Nancy Drew even though it is a a bit old for her (rising 2nd grade). She loves them. Other days when she dosen't feel like listening, she reads out loud to me. Sometimes she reads stuff we read 1000 times other times it is her AR book for the week. It has worked well for us and is a good example of how learning begins at home.
05-30-2010, 08:17 PM
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Vlias
Hi alex.
We *can* afford it. It's just the reality has hit me about how much money it really is. We will have to decide as a family what's really important to us.
What do people really mean when you all say "most education is done at home". I mean we'll help will homework and provide extra enrichment at home, do museums, travel, etc. But I'm thinking that in terms of the actual curriculum education, we can't possibly teach all of that home. So I think I must be missing your point on that one. Can you explain what you mean?
I think what people mean by "most education is done at home" has a broader meaning that the one that you're taking from it. You mentioned earlier that a strong moral and religious education was important to you, and the first and most important place that children learn that is from their parents. What you and your family can teach your child about those things goes far above and beyond what any particular schooling choice will do for them. The same can also be said for a lot of qualities - public school won't make a kid bad and private school won't make him or her good, parenting is what matters the most. Before you seriously compromise your life and budget, it might be useful to consider the role that you can have in doing some of the same religious/moral education.
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People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)