Crime in Atlanta - Holy cow what have I gotten myself into? (Columbus: high crime, homes)

[tahitiblue]

And if you consider all STDs, not just HIV, Atlanta actually ranks #4 in the country for highest STD rates - behind Detroit, Newark and Baltimore (and ahead of, incidentally, Washington DC).

Safe Sex In Your City? : Men's Health

How do we know? We collected the next best thing to block-by-block blood samples: the most recent rates of gonorrhea, syphilis, and chlamydia, as reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). And for those cities that aren't required to kiss and tell their STD rates to the CDC, we examined county data, from which we also pulled the most current HIV mortality rates. After analyzing all of these highly infectious numbers in our statistical petri dish, we were able to name the cities most likely to make love hurt--and those where sex is still just good clean fun.

Might as Well Get Your Shots Now
88. San Francisco, CA F

89. St. Louis, MO F

90. Oklahoma City, OK F

91. Norfolk, VA F

92. Chicago, IL F

93. Richmond, VA F

94. New Orleans, LA F

95. Memphis, TN F

96. Philadelphia, PA F

97. Washington, DC F

98. Atlanta, GA F

99. Baltimore, MD F

100. Newark, NJ F

101. Detroit, MI F

[RainyRainyDay]

What a surprise, this thread is taking a turn for the better. Realistic-seeming numbers from credible sources!

[back2dc]

Interesting and good to know (and save for future reference).

Any statistics out there on STD by metro area?

Originally Posted by tahitiblue

And if you consider all STDs, not just HIV, Atlanta actually ranks #4 in the country for highest STD rates - behind Detroit, Newark and Baltimore (and ahead of, incidentally, Washington DC).

Safe Sex In Your City? : Men's Health

How do we know? We collected the next best thing to block-by-block blood samples: the most recent rates of gonorrhea, syphilis, and chlamydia, as reported to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). And for those cities that aren't required to kiss and tell their STD rates to the CDC, we examined county data, from which we also pulled the most current HIV mortality rates. After analyzing all of these highly infectious numbers in our statistical petri dish, we were able to name the cities most likely to make love hurt--and those where sex is still just good clean fun.

Might as Well Get Your Shots Now
88. San Francisco, CA F

89. St. Louis, MO F

90. Oklahoma City, OK F

91. Norfolk, VA F

92. Chicago, IL F

93. Richmond, VA F

94. New Orleans, LA F

95. Memphis, TN F

96. Philadelphia, PA F

97. Washington, DC F

98. Atlanta, GA F

99. Baltimore, MD F

100. Newark, NJ F

101. Detroit, MI F

[billl]

Originally Posted by tonygeorgia

Atlanta is about the same size as DC and Bmore which are very very very dangerous compared to Atlanta

Actually, not true according to the FBI statistics for 2009:

Atlanta, population 552901, violent 6359, property 34349, total 40708
Baltimore, population 638755, violent 9664, property 29163, total 38827
DC, population 599657, violent 7586, property 27007, total 34593

Overall Atlanta has more crime with fewer people, although for violent crime Baltimore and DC are higher. Realistically the three cities are pretty close to one another.

[atlantagreg30127]

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Ok, this thread has gone many routes and some of them are involving attacks, insults, off-topic remarks, and more. This will be the only warning that vacations will be issued to those who decide to continue to participate in the Romper Room antics.

We've had crime topics on here before. Atlanta has crime. This one has a slightly different perspective to it so it'll be allowed to continue if it gets back on topic and people can contribute to it like, I dunno, humans. Stay on topic. Only the topic.

Thank you

[BringBackCobain]

Look, people need to view the larger picture here. It was only 10 years ago that Atlanta had one of the highest crime rates in America. Some people are referring to the 90s as Atlanta's safe "golden age", when in reality the city is safer now than it has been since the 70s.

But yes, Atlanta still has a major crime problem, and calling it "safe" is a bit of a stretch. Hopefully, it will continue the current trend of an annual decrease, and then in 2013 we can elect a non-machine mayor. The fact that people are speaking up about it is a good thing, and they shouldn't be bashed for telling the truth. But also, the doom and gloom scenarios are very unlikely if you view the crime stats through a larger window.

[tahitiblue]

I just want to clarify this, since I'm fairly new here and don't want to run afoul of the rules: threads cannot discuss anything that isn't specifically in the original post title? You cannot have any sort of related discussion or tangents? I had no idea that posting something related to the school system, since we're discussing the overall state of the city, would be considered off-topic (and on most boards it would not) so I was pretty surprised to find my post deleted.

[Galounger]

Originally Posted by tahitiblue

I just want to clarify this, since I'm fairly new here and don't want to run afoul of the rules: threads cannot discuss anything that isn't specifically in the original post title? You cannot have any sort of related discussion or tangents? I had no idea that posting something related to the school system, since we're discussing the overall state of the city, would be considered off-topic (and on most boards it would not) so I was pretty surprised to find my post deleted.

I don't think A.G. s trying to be mean to you tahitiblue. It's just alot of Atlanta threads (especially ones about emotional subjects like crime) tend to get way out of control fast with alot of completely off subject tangents, personal insults, and just plain nastiness. I don't think he'll mind if you make slightly off OP question remarks if you can tie them into the Original Topic at hand though.

[atlantagreg30127]

Originally Posted by tahitiblue

I just want to clarify this, since I'm fairly new here and don't want to run afoul of the rules: threads cannot discuss anything that isn't specifically in the original post title? You cannot have any sort of related discussion or tangents? I had no idea that posting something related to the school system, since we're discussing the overall state of the city, would be considered off-topic (and on most boards it would not) so I was pretty surprised to find my post deleted.

1) Threads should stay as close to the original topic (first post) as possible. You can deviate if it's related, so long as the topic is part of the response as well - in other words, adding additional ideas is fine, but overall you need to stay on topic.

2) No, you cannot go on "tangents".

3) Please do not discuss moderator actions in the room (posts being deleted, etc).

4) For a complete list of the tos (terms of service) that we all agree to when we sign up for this site, see this link: //www.city-data.com/forumtos.html

Thank you

Originally Posted by Galounger

I don't think A.G. s trying to be mean to you tahitiblue. It's just alot of Atlanta threads (especially ones about emotional subjects like crime) tend to get way out of control fast with alot of completely off subject tangents, personal insults, and just plain nastiness. I don't think he'll mind if you make slightly off OP question remarks if you can tie them into the Original Topic at hand though.

Galounger wins the cookie of the day. Bingo. (thumbs-up)

[Indentured Servant]

I think that I understand what the original OP was saying. In many places the “poor” are compartmentalized, isolated, segregated to certain areas. That is true for many Northern Cities and out West as well. The South is different because metro area expansion encompassed many poor rural areas. So in other words, there are large pockets of poor people all over the south, from the city to the suburbs. Hence, its harder to “feel safe” in a metro area like Atlanta, than a Metro area like Detroit, if you are a person who can afford to live where they want. In Metro Detroit, because it is so segregated by race and class, you can avoid a lot of crime by simply staying out of the city of Detroit. You cannot do that in Metro Atlanta, because poverty and crime plagues the suburb and city. That is true for most Southern Metros. Hence, people who move from say Troy Michigan, a suburb of Detroit, to Cobb County Georgia will feel a lot less safe than they did in the Detroit area, even though the City of Detroit’s crime rate is extremely high. Now, on the other hand, if you take a person who lived in the city of Detroit and they moved to the city of Atlanta, they will generally feel a little safer in Atlanta. It’s even more granular than that. You can live in a low crime rate city but live in a very high crime rate neighborhood or you can live in a high crime rate city in a low crime rate neighborhood.

I tend to think that if you grew up around crime….that you pretty much can live anywhere without being totally taken back by crime. However, if you grew up in the comfort of a low crime area….you will have a hard time adjusting to a place like Atlanta….because it really does not offer the type of isolation that would allow you to live “in comfort”.