Austin considered a 'Sanctuary City'? Apparently not anymore.

[oldtoiletsmkgdflrpots]

Originally Posted by ImOnFiya;15756057Along with the city's [B

day labor center[/b], Austin's resolves to help with the living and working conditions of the undocumented who help keep this city running has remained consistent and resolute.

People that are here illegally run the city of Austin? Shouldn't the people that live here legally have first dibs on any jobs that keep the city of Austin running??

If the city is going to help with working conditions and living conditions shouldn't they address the needs of people the people that pay taxes first and are here legally? Or am I understanding this whole issue incorrectly?

The low unemployment numbers can't be taken seriously if the workers are not legally workers. In other words there isn't a way to really check and see what the real numbers are. True?

[jobert]

This time it appears governor Perry is getting serious about it by trying to fast track legislation targeting "sanctuary cities":

Governor Perry targets sanctuary cities | kvue.com | KVUE News | Austin, TX | Breaking News

reiterating what was said earlier:
"Travis County leads the nation in ICE deportations," said Art Acevedo, Austin's Police Chief. "If that's a sanctuary city, then we're going to have to work on our definition."

[verybadgnome]

Originally Posted by oldtoiletsmkgdflrpots

People that are here illegally run the city of Austin? Shouldn't the people that live here legally have first dibs on any jobs that keep the city of Austin running??

If the city is going to help with working conditions and living conditions shouldn't they address the needs of people the people that pay taxes first and are here legally? Or am I understanding this whole issue incorrectly?

The low unemployment numbers can't be taken seriously if the workers are not legally workers. In other words there isn't a way to really check and see what the real numbers are. True?

Why is it that people always try to bring up the issue of taxes in regards to illegals? If you are here undocumented you still pay gas, cigarette, sales, and property taxes (yes renters pay property taxes via their rent). If they do not pay income taxes that is also on the business owner (usually not an illegal but more along the lines of KB Homes, Centex, Holiday Inn, various maid service agencies, etc.) who never seems to get the blame.

[CptnRn]

Originally Posted by jobert

"Travis County leads the nation in ICE deportations," said Art Acevedo, Austin's Police Chief. "If that's a sanctuary city, then we're going to have to work on our definition."

That is interesting. Don't you just love it when the State Legislature is in town and they act like Austin is a pit of vipers?

Originally Posted by verybadgnome

Why is it that people always try to bring up the issue of taxes in regards to illegals? If you are here undocumented you still pay gas, cigarette, sales, and property taxes (yes renters pay property taxes via their rent). If they do not pay income taxes that is also on the business owner (usually not an illegal but more along the lines of KB Homes, Centex, Holiday Inn, various maid service agencies, etc.) who never seems to get the blame.

There is no question in my mind that the employers are primarily responsible for most of the hiring of illegals. But I'm willing to bet that the State legislature won't ever address that side of the problem, that would upset the business interests. So how hypocritical is that, to ignore the root of the problem while attacking the people who simply want to make a better life for themselves and their families?

[verybadgnome]

Originally Posted by CptnRn

That is interesting. Don't you just love it when the State Legislature is in town and they act like Austin is a pit of vipers?




There is no question in my mind that the employers are primarily responsible for most of the hiring of illegals. But I'm willing to bet that the State legislature won't ever address that side of the problem, that would upset the business interests. So how hypocritical is that, to ignore the root of the problem while attacking the people who simply want to make a better life for themselves and their families?

Way hypocritical. I think in their ideal world they could have the cheap labor during the day and then have them magically transported over the border at quitting time.

[Bo]

Post #4 includes a warning. This is the second and final warning for the thread. Some posts were deleted above.

Discuss Austin in your posts or take your discussion to one of the forums linked in post #4. The broad topic of Immigration is not to be discussed here UNLESS IT PERTAINS DIRECTLY TO AUSTIN.

[Trainwreck20]

Hmmm...my brother is basically subsistence living, and manages to get work as a day laborer from time to time. It does manage to keep a roof over his head. I guess he better not tell anyone he is Austin redsidnet and American, or he won't be able to do it anymore....

As for the article, I did not read it, I am sure (as pointed out above) that it is absolutely un-researched. If numbers are involved, there is always a way to spin them.

Although the numbers are made up, the following statements could both be true:
50% of marriages end in divorce AND
Only 20% of people get divorces.

There are numbers similar to those and both are accurate, but depending on what you are trying to 'sell', you use one statement or the other. So, I personally would have to see any document numbers to know if there is any basis for the story.

[CptnRn]

Originally Posted by verybadgnome

Way hypocritical. I think in their ideal world they could have the cheap labor during the day and then have them magically transported over the border at quitting time.

Finally a justification for high speed rail to the border!

[orbius]

So basically this move by Perry is a sign that real estate is in the toilet worse than we can imagine, no new building anytime soon, and a lot of the newly unemployed immigrants are turning to crime to support themselves?

[CptnRn]

Originally Posted by orbius

So basically this move by Perry is a sign that real estate is in the toilet worse than we can imagine, no new building anytime soon, and a lot of the previous builders are turning to crime to support themselves?

Nothing new about what the builders are doing. It has been going on for over 30 years.