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Old 06-23-2011, 08:40 PM
 
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Actually, if you go back and read everything I have posted, I never once claimed I had articles to prove his innocence. And I'm sure you have "witness accounts" that he was seen with her, but if you knew him you would know he is close to many of his students so for him to go to lunch or be around his students in a settings outside of school is nothing out of the ordinary.

You say I speak in circles, but you are doing the same thing. You continue to claim to have evidence to prove his guilt but you have yet to provide anything. You are entitled to your opinion, but seeing as neither one of us are willing to put our information out there, then I guess we must agree to disagree.
Well, I have to protect my source so I can't put much out there. I just wanted to find out what happened with the situation. It appears to still be an active investigation. Not sure what is taking so long. If the girl doesn't talk then they can't really do much to him. I don't think he will be teaching again from what I've heard.

If I were a teacher, I would not have resigned so quickly if I was innocent. Hopefully someone will enlighten me.
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Old 06-23-2011, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX!!!!
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Actually, if you go back and read everything I have posted, I never once claimed I had articles to prove his innocence. And I'm sure you have "witness accounts" that he was seen with her, but if you knew him you would know he is close to many of his students so for him to go to lunch or be around his students in a settings outside of school is nothing out of the ordinary.

You say I speak in circles, but you are doing the same thing. You continue to claim to have evidence to prove his guilt but you have yet to provide anything. You are entitled to your opinion, but seeing as neither one of us are willing to put our information out there, then I guess we must agree to disagree.
That would be a red flag for me as a parent.
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Old 06-24-2011, 06:27 AM
 
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Well, I have to protect my source so I can't put much out there. I just wanted to find out what happened with the situation. It appears to still be an active investigation. Not sure what is taking so long. If the girl doesn't talk then they can't really do much to him. I don't think he will be teaching again from what I've heard.

If I were a teacher, I would not have resigned so quickly if I was innocent. Hopefully someone will enlighten me.
The truth is, no one knows what really happened except the people who were there. You may have a "source" who can tell you this or that, but that isn't the same thing and frankly your opinion of who is innocent or guilty is about as valid in my mind as the other poster who likes the guy because he was a popular teacher. Neither of you were there. Anyone could be lying: the teacher, the student, your source. Why not let the authorities handle this?

Additionally, if you were actually someone "in the know" on this situation (you know, like the police), I don't believe for a second that you would be in a catfight over it on CD forums. The way you're squabbling with a 19 year old saying, "Me, me, me, I'm right!!!" makes you look about as reputable as the guy in question looks by resigning. Now, he could be innocent and just have made an error in judgment by resigning. You could actually know what you're talking about and just be making a fool out of yourself arguing like a stuffed shirt on an anonymous forum with a teenager. But neither of you are doing a lot to prove your point right now. Why not let the people who actually know what they're doing handle this?

Anyone who has an inappropriate relationship with a child should never teach again. Period. I don't care if the student did consent. I don't care how old they were. It's the act of a predator to take advantage of your position of authority. All the same, it is the job of the authorities to determine what happened, not an ambulance chaser on CD forums who thinks they know everything and convicts someone in their mind without a single fact.
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Old 06-24-2011, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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The way you're squabbling with a 19 year old saying, "Me, me, me, I'm right!!!" makes you look about as reputable as the guy in question looks by resigning.
That's how it looks to me, too.
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Old 06-25-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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I know what I know and cannot disclose my sources. So it isn't bickering with a 19 year old. It's just telling it like it is. You know nothing of the situation so not sure why you bothered to add to the mix. Apparently, you are in the same boat as the other poster and myself because you are knocking me and my posts. Just trying to find out the end result of the investigation.
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Old 06-25-2011, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I know what I know and cannot disclose my sources. So it isn't bickering with a 19 year old. It's just telling it like it is. You know nothing of the situation so not sure why you bothered to add to the mix. Apparently, you are in the same boat as the other poster and myself because you are knocking me and my posts. Just trying to find out the end result of the investigation.
Well then go back to your "sources" rather than come on a public forum saying you "know some things" and want to know others.

Send an email to the Statesman asking. File an FOIA if you need to know so bad.
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Old 06-25-2011, 06:58 PM
 
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Well then go back to your "sources" rather than come on a public forum saying you "know some things" and want to know others.

Send an email to the Statesman asking. File an FOIA if you need to know so bad.
This forum is for people who are seeking answers. So don't discount my questions. I find you incredibly rude. The Statesman knows nothing nor KXAN. The school is not talking. Not sure what is going on so I'm seeking answers.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:04 PM
 
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Well then go back to your "sources" rather than come on a public forum saying you "know some things" and want to know others.

Send an email to the Statesman asking. File an FOIA if you need to know so bad.
Spot on. If this person actually had a credible "source" then they would simply ask them what was going on. Anyone who was actually involved has likely been advised by attorneys not to say a word. Someone associated with the school or police department (the only other ones who might have evidence) would have the legal savvy not to get into a tizzy crowing about it on CD forums.
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Old 06-25-2011, 08:13 PM
 
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So if anyone has any info on this let me know. I'm not going to waste my time talking to a bunch of posters who add nothing to the conversation.
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Old 06-26-2011, 05:46 PM
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Location: Knoxville, TN
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Well, just because charges have not been pressed does not mean they WON'T be. Many times it is just a gathering of evidence and putting it together in a way that a grand jury would feel the case is worth pursuing.

I agree with one poster, that spending too much time outside of school with students would be a red flag to me, also. I can understand why a student that thinks he is a great teacher and "cool or fun or hip or whatever" would not see that as an issue, but as a parent, well.....it is our job to think about those things.

As far as him resigning, perhaps it was the best case scenario no matter what. I would imagine a highly paid legal adviser told him to do it, so don't read too much into that.

Sadly, we may never know the REAL story or the REAL result.
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