Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Texas > Austin
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-08-2012, 12:56 PM
 
7,742 posts, read 15,120,573 times
Reputation: 4295

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10scoachrick View Post
You gotta love theory. Sure, the people who use a tremendous amount of water at home frequently have the money to pay for it, thus less elasticity at that level(No, wait...that's backwards. No, wait, people who can afford higher utilities WON'T react to a small 'penalty'. No, wait...we're talking about the three driest/hottest summers in a row...not some text-book theory or unrelated anecdotal stats).

However, all the theories go out the window when 'our' hundred year-old oaks are threatened by severe drought and we decide to pop for an extra fifty bucks a month during the summer to save trees worth tens of thousands.

We're (generally) not talking about folks who wash their cars every day or just let the water run down the curb. "Sure, honey...let's let the cars go for a day since we're about to cross the xx,000 gallon threshold and will have to pay ten dollars more!"

As I said, a few folks will be prompted to check for leaks, etc; but the people who use excessive amounts of water usually can afford an extra few bucks a month. If you're gonna hit'em hard, hit'em HARD. Pish-posh on the theory 'behind' the insignificant numbers they're talking about.
what is interesting is that what you are proposing is also a theory. However you have no data to back up your statements. I have the full weight of the field of economics, plus plenty of studies around price elasticity of urban water usage. You imagine that rich people arent elastic in their demand curves but the evidence - the data, suggests otherwise.

This price increase may not reduce water usage, but at $100/gallon even the super rich would reduce their usage. Somewhere between $5/1000 gallons and $100/gallon the consumption of the top 50% of water users will drop.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-08-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Avery Ranch, Austin, TX
8,977 posts, read 17,542,882 times
Reputation: 4001
Quote:
Originally Posted by Austin97 View Post
what is interesting is that what you are proposing is also a theory. However you have no data to back up your statements. I have the full weight of the field of economics, plus plenty of studies around price elasticity of urban water usage. You imagine that rich people arent elastic in their demand curves but the evidence - the data, suggests otherwise.

This price increase may not reduce water usage, but at $100/gallon even the super rich would reduce their usage. Somewhere between $5/1000 gallons and $100/gallon the consumption of the top 50% of water users will drop.
Thank you. I'm pretty sure that's what I said. Now, which will have a greater impact on the amount of water used: A) The proposed insignificant rate structure or 2) Your example of a theoretical $100/gallon price? Answer: Neither

And we're not talking about 'rich' people being the ones interested in saving their trees and landscape at the cost of a couple hundred bucks a summer. Regular ole folk can see the shortsightedness of endangering thousands of dollars of trees and landscaping for the imagined savings of. say, fifty bucks a month.

What MAY happen is a reasonable rainy season(whatever that actually is in cenTex) and all the 'theorists' taking credit for developing this grand tiered water rate system that magically reduced the amount of water used by homeowners. Snicker-snicker.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-08-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
1,317 posts, read 4,056,312 times
Reputation: 766
Screw the grass, I just need the water to keep my foundation moist - that's all!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Texas > Austin
Similar Threads
View detailed profiles of:

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:21 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top