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Old 06-01-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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Steiner Ranch residents opposing plans for 800 apartments

<<We need to make whatever development does come ... fit and be compatible to the existing community," said Steiner Ranch resident Greg Milligan, co-chairman of the development committee for the newly formed Steiner Ranch Neighborhood Association, which includes residents in the surrounding area.>>

Thats code for we dont want those kinds of people living here.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:52 PM
 
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Well it is possible that some people have the feelings you are referencing toward "those people," but it is also true that traffic in and out of Steiner is very bad. Even though there have been improvements to 620, the geography of Steiner is that it is basically cut off except for the side on 620, and that makes for probably permanent limitations on traffic flow. The developer saying that all those apartments would not affect traffic is obviously self serving. Hundreds of new households also means more congestion on 620 and 2222.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:53 PM
 
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Steiner Ranch residents opposing plans for 800 apartments

<<We need to make whatever development does come ... fit and be compatible to the existing community," said Steiner Ranch resident Greg Milligan, co-chairman of the development committee for the newly formed Steiner Ranch Neighborhood Association, which includes residents in the surrounding area.>>

Thats code for we dont want those kinds of people living here.
Totally untrue.

The problem Steiner residents are having with the new housing is that they are adding hundreds of new residents, but doing nothing to add to or upgrade the existing infrastructure of the neighborhood. Last year we had a rather serious fire out here, and no one could get out of the Ranch because the roads here cannot handle a mass evacuation, let alone with hundreds of more families added. Also, they are simply building more housing without any consultation at all with the Leander school district. We have three elementary schools here in Steiner, and they are overcrowding. How will the schools handle the influx of new people? No one cares. Finally, many of us bought land here with assurances that a certain percentage of land would be kept as greenbelt to maintain the nature out here that everyone loves. They already bulldozed 61 acres of green trees to build a heinous Randall's shopping center that no one likes or uses, and now they are bulldozing more greenbelt to add more housing. Do they care to widen the roads, add new traffic signals, consult the schools, or do anything to prepare for the new residents? Not at all. I don't think anyone out here cares who moves into the new housing -- and given that much of it is situated to have views of Lake Travis, it's unlikely it is going to be priced for low-income families (condos with Lake views in the current apartment complexes at the top of the Ranch are priced similarly to houses inside the ranch with 3x the square footage). Why do you assume it is some sort of latent racism? What's more accurate is that the current residents are seeing their nice community overrun by development so the already rich builders and land owners can squeeze a few more million out of the land. It has nothing to do with "who" - it has everything to do with "how".

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Old 06-01-2012, 04:57 PM
 
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I agree with you, SickofCA. It is a really dumb thing to put in all those apartments. It is certainly money grabbing developers who have no interest in a livable community.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:16 PM
 
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Pretty much what folks said about the development that is Steiner Ranch going in in the first place (you know, all the houses on pristine land and all those people causing traffic problems on 620). There were no doubt reassurances by the developer then that there would be no impact on traffic or quality of life by the entire subdivision.

Sauce, goose, gander, anyone?
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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You chose to move into a development with ONLY TWO entrances. Anyone could have predicted that would be a problem. Now that you live there you want to stop people that cant afford a house from moving in? Why doesnt anyone protest the 200 houses a year that get added to steiner when they are protesting a 300 unit apt complex.

It is just like the people who protested wal mart at northcross mall, but they would have been ecstatic to have a central market or whole foods.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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I, for one, oppose another traffic light for Steiner on 620.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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You chose to move into a development with ONLY TWO entrances. Anyone could have predicted that would be a problem. Now that you live there you want to stop people that cant afford a house from moving in?
Again, the prices of the condos with lake views are roughly the same prices as the houses inside Steiner without them.

And most people here would oppose the building of mansions on the same property. We like our greenbelts and don't need more traffic. It has nothing to do with race or class.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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It is just like the people who protested wal mart at northcross mall, but they would have been ecstatic to have a central market or whole foods.
First of all, you are just assuming people would prefer one over the other. You have no evidence or polling to make the statement you made.

Second, most Walmarts cover 120,000 square feet, not so with a Central Market.

Third, some people are politically opposed to WalMart and its affect on nearby local businesses and would protest them regardless of the alternatives.

Fourth, what is wrong with wanting something nice where you live? If you give me the choice between living next to a a McDonalds or living next to a four-star restaurant, why does that somehow make me in the wrong for preferring the nicer, more upscale alternative? And if I prefer the more upscale place, why do you assume it is because I don't want a certain class of people coming near me?

When people make these types of baseless assumptions, it really only shows you where THEIR mind is. You are the one bringing up class warfare. I have talked to dozens of residents and never once heard anything about what you are implying. People here are worried about 1) traffic, 2) school overcrowding and 3) the loss of beautiful greenbelt. It's not like they are building projects up there, they are building upscale condos that are out of the price range of the poor you think we all fear. The wacky theories you keep lobbing reflect poorly on you, not us.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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Steiner ranch...land of the tiny lots...
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