12-20-2007, 07:47 PM
Location: The Miami Of Canada
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To b.frank and love roses, are there certain areas/neighborhoods where HOA's are more predominant?
12-21-2007, 06:28 AM
Location: NW Austin
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ITChick
To b.frank and love roses, are there certain areas/neighborhoods where HOA's are more predominant?
Aren't all the newer homes in subdivisions with HOAs? I think you have to get an area with older houses. Also driving around you can see if people have yard art... Christmas is probably a good time to drive around and see!
12-21-2007, 06:56 AM
Location: Austin, TX
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We have an HOA, but pretty much anything goes if it is temporary, at least from my observations. Most of the subdivisions built in the last 15-20 years have some sort of HOA, older ones may or may not. I lived in an older neighborhood that had one, technically, but bascially did not regulate anything and the fees were ~$5/yr. The HOA spent its time and money very productively supporting or opposing city projects in the area (roads, parks, ordinances). It was quite refreshing and much more useful than telling people what decorations they could have...
12-21-2007, 08:52 AM
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Trainwrecked answered your question
I've found that to be the case myself. Almost all new neighborhoods will have HOA's. Older ones may or may not. The neighborhood my mom lives in in Houston was built in the early 80's, and it's always had one. Stand alone homes probably don't have them, but master planned and subdivisions I'd think do have them. For example, I'm in Hutto and every neighborhood here has one except for Old town and the farmers and ranchers who live out a little further in the country.
12-21-2007, 02:25 PM
Location: The Miami Of Canada
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atlanta hope
Aren't all the newer homes in subdivisions with HOAs? I think you have to get an area with older houses. Also driving around you can see if people have yard art... Christmas is probably a good time to drive around and see!
LOL! I wish I could be there right now to see this.
I agree that I will probably have to look at an older home if I don't want to deal with HOAs.
Trainwreck, I hope if I find a home I'm really interested in that has an HOA, it is like the one you had for $5.00/yr! That is very reasonable. I was looking at some properties that were no more than 10 years old and many of them were asking for $75-80.00/mo. in assessments!
Love roses, when you mention the "master planned" and "subdivision" communities, are you refering to those home communities that look like they have a special entrance to get into their part of the neighborhood, and are usually walled off with a fence?
I will probably do a lot of driving around neighborhoods and looking at homes. I would hate to bother the Realtor or owner if the property has HOAs so I hope to be able to visually spot them from the locations they are in.
12-21-2007, 02:46 PM
Location: Hutto, Tx
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Yes, those are the ones. Like Avery Ranch, Sendero Springs, Circle C, Riverplace,etc...
12-21-2007, 11:22 PM
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Yard art is tacky (imo) but it's subjective. You may think it's cute while someone else thinks pink flamingos and signs that say PEACE ON EARTH are hideous. So I can see why a HOA would say no yard art.
12-26-2007, 09:45 AM
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ITChick
Trainwreck, I hope if I find a home I'm really interested in that has an HOA, it is like the one you had for $5.00/yr! That is very reasonable. I was looking at some properties that were no more than 10 years old and many of them were asking for $75-80.00/mo. in assessments!
I wonder what an HOA can do with $5.00 per year... Even if it's a 400 house development, that's only $2k.
Huh.
We have a 3 member board (elected every year), supported by 4 standing committees and an occasional adhoc group for special issues. Our HOA has a budget of ~ 85K/yr and every bit of that gets used up on the community!
The largest chunk goes toward a mowing/landscape contract to keep the common grounds and the small park mowed. Then there is the cleaning of the two park restrooms, along with maintenance on the septic. And the perimeter fencing is always getting hit by some errant motorist...so that costs. There are also maintenance costs for the gates, replacing lights, fixing the sprinkler system, removing dead trees (on common grounds)...twice per year road edging, and erosion repair (The community owns it's 12 miles of road and is very protective of it, and it's road base).
On top of that are utility costs (street lights, water), the common ground property taxes and liability insurance premium. And a monthly fee for the property management company which collects dues, provides legal action for delinquent owners, and otherwise acts as an administrator in filing the proper IRS documents, certificates of resale and maintaining retention files. And representing the community in property tax disputes.
There's probably more that I just can't remember off the top of my head...
...but my point being that $5.00 per year seems hardly worth collecting. It would barely cover mailing costs for annual dues and board election ballots.
12-26-2007, 11:20 AM
Location: Austin, TX
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but my point being that $5.00 per year seems hardly worth collecting. It would barely cover mailing costs for annual dues and board election ballots.
That pretty much covers it. It was (is) a curbless neighborhood and there are no neighborhood lights (city does provide some streetlights), sprinklers, or landscaping structures. The city takes care of the public areas (such as roads and drainage area that runs through one part of the neighborhood) and the individuals take care of themselves. It is a very pleasant neighborhood, but some of the newer HOA residents would be shocked....there are a couple of horses on one of the large lots (2 or 3 acres?) and there used to be a pot bellied pig in the yard at another house.
12-26-2007, 12:39 PM
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm in a subdivision with an HOA similar to trainwreck20..no amenities to take care of.
Our HOA was formed more to keep the subdivision as single family homes and not have a commericial entity buy a lot and use it in a commercial way. Our HOA payments go towards an annual BBQ for the owners
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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I've found that to be the case myself. Almost all new neighborhoods will have HOA's. Older ones may or may not. The neighborhood my mom lives in in Houston was built in the early 80's, and it's always had one. Stand alone homes probably don't have them, but master planned and subdivisions I'd think do have them. For example, I'm in Hutto and every neighborhood here has one except for Old town and the farmers and ranchers who live out a little further in the country.
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