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Old 11-29-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: The People's Republic of Austin
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Behavior modification.
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Old 11-29-2013, 02:32 PM
 
Location: central Austin
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Yes, similar piece in the NYT today (via the Tx Tribune). I can't complain about more regular and more rapid bus service.
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: NxNW
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I hate the toll roads, but I'm actually okay with the mopac toll lane. It's sad that we can't build any new highways in Austin without making them tolled, but in this particular case where it's only feasible to add one more lane, making it a free lane will only turn Mopac into a 4 lane parking lot instead of 3. Adjusting the cost of the toll to ensure that bus traffic moves at max speed makes sense. If it modifies people's behavior towards using public transportation, all the better.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Denver via Austin
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Most people fail to realize that transportation planning involves more than just increasing supply. It also involves controlling demand.
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:54 PM
 
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Having lived all over the place, one of the things I liked about several states were the carpool/HOV lanes. I have to wonder why Austin isn't going that route? If the idea is to ease congestion, getting less cars on the road seems like a good idea.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:21 PM
 
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If toll lanes result in fewer people in cars - great!

All roads should be tolled - it's the best way to tie costs to use.
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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If that actually happens, I'd consider the project to be successful.
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Old 12-03-2013, 08:37 AM
 
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If toll lanes result in fewer people in cars - great!

All roads should be tolled - it's the best way to tie costs to use.
I mostly disagree with you on everything, but I agree with this.

I love toll roads, variable tolls are the best way to allow people to have the option to get somewhere fast.

A wealthy person might decide it is worth it to pay a $5 toll everyday because their time is worth the cost.

A poor person might only do it every once in awhile, preferring to leave earlier or later when the toll costs less or taking non toll roads that are slower. However when they need to get someplace fast they can pay the exorbitant price.
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Old 12-04-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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Having lived all over the place, one of the things I liked about several states were the carpool/HOV lanes. I have to wonder why Austin isn't going that route? If the idea is to ease congestion, getting less cars on the road seems like a good idea.
Also, HOV lanes (at least on federally-funded roads) must allow solo use for motorcycles. Dunno about state roads, but if they get a dime from the feds they have to as well, unless there's a safety issue.

http://www.ncdot.gov/projects/hov/download/hovfaq.pdf
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: The People's Republic of Austin
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Also, HOV lanes (at least on federally-funded roads) must allow solo use for motorcycles. Dunno about state roads, but if they get a dime from the feds they have to as well, unless there's a safety issue.

http://www.ncdot.gov/projects/hov/download/hovfaq.pdf
The added lanes on Mopac are not HOV lanes. They are HOT lanes - big difference.
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