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Old 04-01-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Avery Ranch, Austin, TX
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There are four corners to political ideology based on personal and economic freedom. Communist, libertarian, conservative, and liberal. I refer to the graphic below:



Of the four, liberal and conservative are the most common.
Hmmm...SOMEbody has been awake in poly sci/philosophy class

I've never uttered this phrase, but now's the time:

You might consider thinking OUTside the box.
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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Hmmm...SOMEbody has been awake in poly sci/philosophy class

I've never uttered this phrase, but now's the time:

You might consider thinking OUTside the box.
I just meant that it's not about party lines, I pick my political ideology based on the fact that while I believe in complete personal freedom to do whatever you want as long as you don't harm others, I don't trust business and economic interests as far as I can throw them. With that said, there are things "liberals" do, that aren't actually liberal. For example, people who force others to paint the top of their house white to combat global warming would typically identify as "liberal." However, forcing someone to paint the top of their house goes against personal freedom, which is the central tenant of liberalism.

People should identify with a political group that agrees with their pre-existing political views, not pick one for other reasons and then follow whatever they say.
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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People should identify with a political group that agrees with their pre-existing political views
I disagree, people have no real need to identify with a political group; except, of course, it is required in some sort of dismal self-defense these days....
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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Personal freedom is not the central tenant of liberalism. It is central to libertarianism.

This is why you're just as likely to find a bible-thumping intrusive neighbor that identifies as a "liberal" as you are to find the same that identifies as "conservative". A person's view on religion has little to do with their political affiliation.
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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I disagree, people have no real need to identify with a political group; except, of course, it is required in some sort of dismal self-defense these days....
Right. It's not necessary to join the football team (which is how most people treat their political parties these days, my team right or wrong) in order to have your own identity and to decide what you support and how to vote. All you have to do is really investigate and think about each issue beyond "oh, that sounds like a good idea" without considering unintended consequences and how making that change will impact a lot of other things.
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