New HS in South Austin (Crockett, Bowie: houses, transfer, new construction)

[scm53]

Originally Posted by Novacek

Once that's in place, it will be a lot easier to balance demand/attendance between north and south schools and programs.

Those five attendance zones that will be overcrowded in five years already include high schools north of the river.

Of course, AISD could create capacity at Austin High by rezoning west Austin kids to another nearby school with capacity, like Eastside. Pretty sure that would be greeted with open arms, since there is so much concern about economic segregation. Let's fix that!

[gpurcell]

This all goes back to the attempt to close Barton Hills and Zilker. The purpose of that had nothing to do with those schools--it was to get all the 78704 kids onto the Travis High track and out of Austin High. The thought was that would improve Travis enough to have it run near capacity. This would also allow shifting some Anderson kids down to Austin High.

Crocket is still a problem, of course.

[Novacek]

Originally Posted by scm53

Those five attendance zones that will be overcrowded in five years already include high schools north of the river.

Current projections _don't_ have all 5 south high schools overcrowded in 5 years, even _without_ redrawing the boundaries.

http://www.austinisd.org/sites/defau...n_20150113.pdf

Page 19.

[scm53]

Originally Posted by Novacek

Current projections _don't_ have all 5 south high schools overcrowded in 5 years, even _without_ redrawing the boundaries.

Those 2019 boundaries are the current boundaries. The excess students at Bowie and Akins exceed capacity at Crockett by 700 in five years. Which isn't 2019, but that's a different factual matter.

[Novacek]

Originally Posted by scm53

Those 2019 boundaries are the current boundaries.

Exactly.
You said even with redrawing, all 5 schools that serve the south would be over capacity.

Originally Posted by scm53

Go ahead and redraw the attendance zones. In five years, you will wind up with all five south Austin HS overcrowded.

Since all 5 won't be over capacity _even without_ redrawing, it's hard to imagine all would be over if they actually did redraw (baring redrawing in the most stupid way possible).

Originally Posted by scm53

Which isn't 2019, but that's a different factual matter.

2019 school year. 5 years from today is 3/11/2020. Which is in the 2019-2020 school year.

[scm53]

Originally Posted by Novacek

You said even with redrawing, all 5 schools that serve the south would be over capacity.

I am going to do the CD world a favor. I am going to stop participating in the endless quest to answer what isn't a real quest for information, but are nothing more than attempts to obfuscate and distract. I will let the gentle readers decide what is credible, and what isn't.

Quibble on.

[Novacek]

Originally Posted by scm53

I am going to do the CD world a favor. I am going to stop participating in the endless quest to answer what isn't a real quest for information, but are nothing more than attempts to obfuscate and distract. I will let the gentle readers decide what is credible, and what isn't.

Quibble on.

Can't you just say "Sorry, I was wrong, I made a claim that was completely contrary to the actual facts and AISD's own projections"?

The fact is, it would be stupid to spend $10s of Millions to build a new high school when AISD isn't even using all the capacity they have. Especially since long-term (on the order of 10 years) projections have the high school population _decreasing_.

It would be _especially_ stupid to spend 10s of Millions on a new high school while the school funding lawsuit is still unresolved. That could totally change the facts on the ground.

[Aquitaine]

The fact is, it would be stupid to spend $10s of Millions to build a new high school when AISD isn't even using all the capacity they have. Especially since long-term (on the order of 10 years) projections have the high school population _decreasing_.

I hear China is getting pretty crowded, too! We shouldn't build more school capacity here because they need it more.

"The high school population" is irrelevant. "The Southwest Austin high school population" is. Folks deserting central Austin schools have to go somewhere - guess where....

[Novacek]

Originally Posted by Aquitaine

I hear China is getting pretty crowded, too! We shouldn't build more school capacity here because they need it more.

"The high school population" is irrelevant. "The Southwest Austin high school population" is. Folks deserting central Austin schools have to go somewhere - guess where....

It's not irrelevant when

AISD draws the boundaries.

AISD has nothing to do with schools in China, but AISD decides whether a kid goes to Bowie or Austin. Or Austin or McCallum. or Akins or Travis.

[sojourner77]

The elephant in the room here is the fact that Bowie homeowners don't want the boundaries changed not just because of their own kids, but because it affects their property values, and the entire process has been held hostage because of this agenda. AISD wants the school in SE Austin where the growth will occur, and SW Austin wants their own HS, preferably attached at the hip with the much wealthier Barton Creek, so they can pump their property values and let the rest of South Austin eat cake.

If it really was about the children, then AISD would change the boundaries to even out the schools, and allow current students to grandfather into the school they were previously zoned for if they choose so. Each passing year, the overcrowding burden would ease as the new grades enter into the revised attendance areas. This won't happen because of the meat-and-potatoes of this argument will always boil down to property values whether directly or indirectly.