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Old 12-01-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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Back to the topic at hand -

I understand why a lot of people think a normal bicycle is not very effective for transportation, in a general sense. I have been road cycling for 16 years, and was a fairly decent amatuer racer. I'm not the fastest guy out there, but I'm no slouch.

I applaud the traditional bike commuters. But, I also prefer to use an ebike for most of my transportation. It completely changes the game. It's almost as quick as a scooter, but you can still get a workout, and use bike lanes to pass congested traffic. When it's cold, you can dress warmer. Then, once you get warm a few minutes in, you ease up so you don't start sweating. An ebike allows you to regulate body temperature waay easier than not having the assistance.

Hills? Not a factor anymore.
Heat? It's not as sweat free as sitting in AC, but you can just coast and ride like a scooter. Still a lot cooler than walking a few blocks from a car parking space. The difference of an ebike in 100 degree heat is huge. No heat exhuastion or sweaty clothes. You also don't need to "gear up" as you would on a higher speed two wheeler, (safety gear). That makes it substantially more convient and cooler. (I sometimes ride a motorcycle and dislike it for that reason).

Air pollution - you can coast and reduce the amount of exhuast you are sucking in on the busy parts of your commute. Then get your exercise on the quiet streets with cleaner air.

Cargo - my ebike can easily carry 80lbs, or 4 bags of groceries. Bigger tires and a more robust cargo style commuter are not slowing you down thanks to the motor.

My point is that once more people learn about ebikes, and prices come down, they will vastly change the equation for people who are interested in using a 'bike' for transportation. They are the perfect urban and sub 20 mile commute vehicle.

Safety of proper infrastructure + capability of electric bicycles.

Please do not construe that I am saying "everyone will ride an ebike". I'm not. But they could replace hundreds of thousands of vehicle trips each day.
I am interested in purchasing an ebike. I went to Rocket to test ride the pedego. AMAZING!

But I can't afford $3,000.

So, I looked online and saw various models for $500-$1,000. Why such a vast range of prices? Is a $600 ebike worth buying? or are they just crap?
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:28 PM
 
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Fuel taxes (partially) pay for highways. Not maintenance of roads (the ones cyclists use). Those are paid for with property taxes, that cyclists also pay.
I've seen plenty of cyclists on highways - and I guess you tacitly admit cyclists aren't paying the other fees. So make cyclists pay for insurance, annual registration, etc.
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:41 PM
 
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I've seen plenty of cyclists on highways - and I guess you tacitly admit cyclists aren't paying the other fees.
As I said, those fees only partially pay for highways. Cyclists still pay plenty for highways, given that they do no damage to them.
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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As I said, those fees only partially pay for highways. Cyclists still pay plenty for highways, given that they do no damage to them.
I may be one of the very few people that solely commuted by road bike for years. Even then with bad weather I drove my truck. Depending on how your roads are funded most bike commuters still drive even if occasionally. With the cheaper E-bike options I'll be doing a lot more riding to work
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:53 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I am interested in purchasing an ebike. I went to Rocket to test ride the pedego. AMAZING!

But I can't afford $3,000.

So, I looked online and saw various models for $500-$1,000. Why such a vast range of prices? Is a $600 ebike worth buying? or are they just crap?
Some are junk. Some are outright steals. To be useful you need something that can maintain speed for at least an hour with moderate peddling. You can get a kit with a drum motor to replace an existing wheel that looks to be cheaper for an existing Mt bike.
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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Some are junk. Some are outright steals. To be useful you need something that can maintain speed for at least an hour with moderate peddling. You can get a kit with a drum motor to replace an existing wheel that looks to be cheaper for an existing Mt bike.
I built my ebike with one of those kits, all in for about 600. The motor kit with wheel was about 275, the bike I already had, I probably spent 50 or so in extra parts, and the rest was the battery pack and charger. I opted for a lipo pack which is pricey, but you could get by with cheaper lead-acid if you don't mind the bulk and weight.

Works great, I want to build another...
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Old 12-01-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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I am interested in purchasing an ebike. I went to Rocket to test ride the pedego. AMAZING!

But I can't afford $3,000.

So, I looked online and saw various models for $500-$1,000. Why such a vast range of prices? Is a $600 ebike worth buying? or are they just crap?
ebikes are also just the powered hubs. You can just buy a powered hub (on a wheel) to an existing bike. The Battery can just sit on a rack.

I agree that ebikes are game changers, but most of the paths today prohibit motorized vehicles.
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Old 12-01-2015, 04:07 PM
 
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I agree that ebikes are game changers, but most of the paths today prohibit motorized vehicles.
Where? Not in Texas/Austin.

ebikes aren't "motor vehicles"

http://bicycleaustin.info/laws/tx-bike.html
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Old 12-04-2015, 06:59 PM
 
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I'm all for more protected bike lanes. It's amazing what Austin has been able to do, even though it's far from anything truly comprehensive at this point. The fact that they've been able to do what they have in a relatively hostile environment (wrt the state and suburban areas, inside the city I know it is very much supported) is no small feat. I am really curious how the new bike bridge across 360 and Mopac will be received, once all those people stuck in traffic get to look at the free-flowing protected bike lanes. Could change some minds, or infuriate drivers toward cyclists more... hoping for the former, but fear the latter could happen.

Anyway I hope they can keep adding to the bicycle infrastructure, and wish you well on your push to get more.
Thanks CIO! I appreciate the encouragement!
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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Nope and nope.

As it turns out...Adding Bike Lanes do NOT cause additional congestion, and if done right, they SOLVE congestion:

No, Bike Lanes Don't Cause Horrible Congestion
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