Looks like things might not be groovy at the Grove... (Houston: mortgage, new house)

[Aquitaine]

The developers and the New Urbanists are trying to make it more crowded.

...while the next-neighborhood over and NIMBYists are trying to make it less crowded. How has that been working out for the last twenty years?

[Nacho_Friend]

Your kids have no right to live in any specific place when there are 100s of millions of people who want to move to your city.

Related:
http://m.metronews.ca/#/article/news...ng-market.html

[austinnative69]

Originally Posted by Nacho_Friend

Your kids have no right to live in any specific place when there are 100s of millions of people who want to move to your city.

Related:
http://m.metronews.ca/#/article/news...ng-market.html

"MLA says he can’t afford to live in Vancouver, and neither should you"

Yep -- Vancouver -- Urbanist paradise. This is EXACTLY what is coming people.

Vancouver’s approach to urbanism serves as North American model

[pop251808]

Originally Posted by Aquitaine

...while the next-neighborhood over and NIMBYists are trying to make it less crowded. How has that been working out for the last twenty years?

Originally Posted by Nacho_Friend

Your kids have no right to live in any specific place when there are 100s of millions of people who want to move to your city.

Related:
http://m.metronews.ca/#/article/news...ng-market.html

Originally Posted by austinnative69

"MLA says he can’t afford to live in Vancouver, and neither should you"

Yep -- Vancouver -- Urbanist paradise. This is EXACTLY what is coming people.

Vancouver’s approach to urbanism serves as North American model

It will be more crowded, that's for sure.
And, if by some chance it ISN'T, it will be a damned unpleasant place to live, for whatever reason (the reality of global warming, red-neckery run amock, or who knows what all) so we might as well make it a better, denser city. There are plenty of models for that and there AREN'T any for a still growing, not dense city. Dense is what a city IS.
What I begrudge is all of the money we waste on third-rate planners/reviewers down at Armadillo World Headquarters/city hall.

[Nacho_Friend]

Originally Posted by pop251808

It will be more crowded, that's for sure.
And, if by some chance it ISN'T, it will be a damned unpleasant place to live, for whatever reason (the reality of global warming, red-neckery run amock, or who knows what all) so we might as well make it a better, denser city. There are plenty of models for that and there AREN'T any for a still growing, not dense city. Dense is what a city IS.
What I begrudge is all of the money we waste on third-rate planners/reviewers down at Armadillo World Headquarters/city hall.

Notes:
- It's "Climate Change" now or "Climate Weirding" not "global warming". Bases must be covered.
- "red-neckery" is a racist term and you should be ashamed to use it.

Thank you for validating what I have been saying. People on the Left (and the corporatist Right) ultimately don't care about the comfort of Americans. As they might say, "the flood is coming, so suck it up and get used to living ass to nose with your neighbor".

By the way, I have to say that I find it amusing that people in Rosedale who likely vote at least 60% of the time for border-deniers are trying to build borders around their own neighborhood - "no more people here because traffic" - yet deny the same to the rest of us.

[pop251808]

Originally Posted by Nacho_Friend

Notes:
- It's "Climate Change" now or "Climate Weirding" not "global warming". Bases must be covered.
- "red-neckery" is a racist term and you should be ashamed to use it.

Not having any trouble with either of those terms myself, bless your heart.

[TexasHorseLady]

Originally Posted by pop251808

It will be more crowded, that's for sure.
And, if by some chance it ISN'T, it will be a damned unpleasant place to live, for whatever reason (the reality of global warming, red-neckery run amock, or who knows what all) so we might as well make it a better, denser city. There are plenty of models for that and there AREN'T any for a still growing, not dense city. Dense is what a city IS.
What I begrudge is all of the money we waste on third-rate planners/reviewers down at Armadillo World Headquarters/city hall.

You do realize that your vision of nirvana is not universally shared, don't you? Heck, your definition of "city" as by nature dense to within an inch of its life is not universally shared. For many people what you think of as "better", i.e., denser, is hell on earth.

[eirenecat]

I just want everyone involved to stop squabbling so they can hurry up and start building it out. I will be first in line to check out whatever SFH they build there. I know the prices will be astronomical.

[Novacek]

Originally Posted by TexasHorseLady

You do realize that your vision of nirvana is not universally shared, don't you? Heck, your definition of "city" as by nature dense to within an inch of its life is not universally shared. For many people what you think of as "better", i.e., denser, is hell on earth.

Then don't move to the Grove. You don't have to, I promise.

But don't tell someone else what they can't do with their land.

[TexasHorseLady]

Originally Posted by Novacek

Then don't move to the Grove. You don't have to, I promise.

But don't tell someone else what they can't do with their land.

In essence, that's exactly what you're doing to the neighbors without being up front and honest about what you're really doing or even realizing how obvious it is. "We want this neighborhood that you're already living in and have invested in to change to fit what we want it to be, and we don't want you to have any say or complain about it or the impact on you and your lives. Then the neighborhood will be different enough to drive you out so that we can do what we want with land that used to be yours."