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Old 06-07-2017, 02:17 PM
 
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How clearing all the trees 20 feet away doesn't disturb the wildlife but a small road does is beyond me.
Because that "small road" (1 mile by >100 feet wide) permanently cuts off a large tract of the nature preserve from the rest of the preserve. It permanently destroys the tree canopy connection (which, granted, is barely there now, but still is) which means that the cut off section is no longer effectively part of the same preserve, which makes it useless for maintaining a stable species population.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:21 PM
 
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one area is a preserve the other isnt. Obviously the houses do disturb the wildlife, which is why the preserve exists, so nature isnt disturbed there. Building a road through the preserve violates the intent of the preserve, which is to provide a sanctuary to offset all the houses.

People build houses and destroy habitat
Preserve is created to protect some small amount of nature
People build more houses and a school.
People now complain that their houses and school have a risk of fire, there is too much traffic because of all the houses and the school.
People want to encroach on preserve, using as justification, the fact that they built all the houses and school.
Oh, I get it. I just wish the city (and yes, the school district) would consider the surrounding infrastructure before they start building like gangbusters. Honestly, the construction of the schools, with one entrance/exit, should have probably never been approved as designed. But it was. By the city (since it's actually in C of A city limits). You have to admit that the city of Austin doesn't exactly have a stellar record when it comes to traffic planning.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:22 PM
 
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What condos and office buildings?

On McNeil Dr/Ribelin Ranch?


or are you trying to talk about stuff on River Place?


Because the later _already connects to 620 and 2222_
The ones along Four Points Blvd. And more land there is slated for additional office buildings. It all connects to 2222/620 - that's the problem.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:36 PM
 
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By the city (since it's actually in C of A city limits). You have to admit that the city of Austin doesn't exactly have a stellar record when it comes to traffic planning.
You say that like the city has a choice. Or that the state of Texas _allows_ them to prevent development.
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Old 06-07-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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The ones along Four Points Blvd. And more land there is slated for additional office buildings. It all connects to 2222/620 - that's the problem.
You seem to be very confused. You claim there's all this construction "with no plans by the City to improve the infrastructure around them", and then point to a bunch of buildings on 620/2222 where the intersection is being improved.

You're conflating stuff (the high school) at 2222/McNeil and the stuff at 2222/620. Even though they have totally different connectivity. The former _isn't_ surrounded by the preserve.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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You seem to be very confused. You claim there's all this construction "with no plans by the City to improve the infrastructure around them", and then point to a bunch of buildings on 620/2222 where the intersection is being improved.

You're conflating stuff (the high school) at 2222/McNeil and the stuff at 2222/620. Even though they have totally different connectivity. The former _isn't_ surrounded by the preserve.
The houses, offices, apartments I'm talking about are actually on Four Points Blvd at River Place - the exact location of the proposed extension of Four Points Blvd. Have you actually been out here lately and seen the intersection in question?

And what improvements to 620/2222? There is a proposed cut-through, but that will just move the bottleneck from 620/2222 to 620/River Place. And it won't help traffic coming from the North on 620. City reps even acknowledged that at a meeting last year. I was there. I'm guessing you weren't.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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The houses, offices, apartments I'm talking about are actually on Four Points Blvd at River Place - the exact location of the proposed extension of Four Points Blvd. Have you actually been out here lately and seen the intersection in question?

And what improvements to 620/2222? There is a proposed cut-through, but that will just move the bottleneck from 620/2222 to 620/River Place. And it won't help traffic coming from the North on 620. City reps even acknowledged that at a meeting last year. I was there. I'm guessing you weren't.
You seem to have a strange disconnect. You think that a bypass of 620/2222 North of the intersection will solve all the problems, but a bypass of 620/2222 South of the intersection won't help anything.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:23 PM
 
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There is a proposed cut-through, but that will just move the bottleneck from 620/2222 to 620/River Place.
Except that it also includes widening 2222

$18 million bypass could be finished in 2019, said TxDOT - Four Points News
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:24 PM
 
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You seem to have a strange disconnect. You think that a bypass of 620/2222 North of the intersection will solve all the problems, but a bypass of 620/2222 South of the intersection won't help anything.
A bypass north will allow everyone from River Place, Grandview Hills, Canyon Creek, and all the apts and homes on 620 and Four Points Drive to avoid 2222 altogether, at least to get to the schools. And they could avoid 620/2222 intersection to get to points west. Yes, that will make a bigger difference than a bypass to the South. Better yet, build both.
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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I was at that meeting. They admitted that it "wouldn't help much," but it was "the best they could do."

As someone who drives that route every day, I believe that the extension of Four Points Blvd will help more. Or like I said in my previous response, build them both.
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