Anyone here who has recently taken the driving test at the Pflugerville location, what was the route? (Austin: insurance)

[kvpop]

I'm a bit anxious now..

[luksky]

My daughter just did it a couple of months ago, I think it was pretty much the parking lot out back and a small little section out on "the road". She's not here right now, but I'll ask her tomorrow and check back in with you.

Just to ease your nerves, she's 16 and was anxious as hell and still passed.

[Spookmeister]

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[avanika27]

Originally Posted by kvpop

I'm a bit anxious now..

Are you done with your driving test?

I confidently drive around on 183, Parmer but my parallel parking is not up to the mark.
I mean I can parallel park without hitting the cones and in the designated space but at times my car isn't straight. Do you think they would be ok with that?

[mapleguy]

Wow.........


I wonder how unsafe your new drivers are, when the "route " is such a well known fact ?


I think that a route that includes streets, highways and shopping malls should be required, along with accident avoidance and driving in the dark. After all, all of those things are going to be faced by the " new driver " in the very near future. Arming a 16 year old with a 2 ton weapon ( also known as the family car ) is a dangerous thing to do. At the very least.....train them to be as safe as possible, right ?


In other jurisdictions a new driver has to slowly work their way through a 2 year graduated driver training program, with tough rules about... no driving at night, no passengers other than a licensed driver over age 21, no alcohol at all. no driving on limited access highways. In the first year, any traffic convictions result in a 2 year suspension, and they have to take the pre driving school program all over again.


Oh and if they quit school before they graduate, they can't get a licence until they are over 21. That works to keep them in school.


So where is this place ? In Ontario, Canada. When we introduced this graduated licence system, the number of kids killed in traffic accidents....dropped by 50 percent in the following 3 years. It works.


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[avanika27]

Originally Posted by mapleguy

Wow.........


I wonder how unsafe your new drivers are, when the "route " is such a well known fact ?


I think that a route that includes streets, highways and shopping malls should be required, along with accident avoidance and driving in the dark. After all, all of those things are going to be faced by the " new driver " in the very near future. Arming a 16 year old with a 2 ton weapon ( also known as the family car ) is a dangerous thing to do. At the very least.....train them to be as safe as possible, right ?


In other jurisdictions a new driver has to slowly work their way through a 2 year graduated driver training program, with tough rules about... no driving at night, no passengers other than a licensed driver over age 21, no alcohol at all. no driving on limited access highways. In the first year, any traffic convictions result in a 2 year suspension, and they have to take the pre driving school program all over again.


Oh and if they quit school before they graduate, they can't get a licence until they are over 21. That works to keep them in school.


So where is this place ? In Ontario, Canada. When we introduced this graduated licence system, the number of kids killed in traffic accidents....dropped by 50 percent in the following 3 years. It works.


XXXXX.

Agree with what you said. If not all (Canada seems to pretty thorough though), new drivers should be taken to highways and driving in the dark.
In fact I thought that would be case but only got to know recently that it isn't.

[mapleguy]

You are most welcome.


Ontario takes a very tough stance on driving enforcement.


If a driver is found to be driving 30 mph over the posted limit ( whatever the speed limit is ) the following things happen,


A immediate licence suspension on the spot, the car is impounded for 7 days. The minimum fine upon conviction in court is TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS.....and at the discretion of the Judge, it can go up to TEN thousand dollars. The fine is intended to get the attention of the speeders.


For driving without valid insurance the minimum fine is FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS with an additional $1250 fine that goes into the Victim's support fund. For a total of $6250. A second conviction brings a fine of up to $50,000 YES fifty thousand dollars.


link. https://www.ttas.ca/paralegal-servic...ce-ticket.html




Are we serious ? Yes we sure are.




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[Austinite101]

Originally Posted by mapleguy

You are most welcome.


Ontario takes a very tough stance on driving enforcement.


If a driver is found to be driving 30 mph over the posted limit ( whatever the speed limit is ) the following things happen,


A immediate licence suspension on the spot, the car is impounded for 7 days. The minimum fine upon conviction in court is TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS.....and at the discretion of the Judge, it can go up to TEN thousand dollars. The fine is intended to get the attention of the speeders.


For driving without valid insurance the minimum fine is FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS with an additional $1250 fine that goes into the Victim's support fund. For a total of $6250. A second conviction brings a fine of up to $50,000 YES fifty thousand dollars.


link. https://www.ttas.ca/paralegal-servic...ce-ticket.html




Are we serious ? Yes we sure are.




XXXX.

Yikes. I can understand 2,000, but 50,000? I think it would be unconstitutionally excessive here in The States.

[hitpausebutton2]

Originally Posted by Austinite101

Yikes. I can understand 2,000, but 50,000? I think it would be unconstitutionally excessive here in The States.

It will make sure you got insurance for sure!!

But yes these kids today got it easy and needs a reality check when driving. They need to learn to drive highway speed on the interstate, major intersections, dark on dirt roads.. But then again, they teach the basics, its up to the parents to do the reset. Now if we can only implement Canada Laws, we would have the safest streets in the nation..

[mapleguy]

Austinite.


The whole point of the heavy fines for excessive speed and driving with out insurance is to deter. And the high fines for driving without insurance is to make it a lot less costly...to buy insurance. If a driver has been convicted under the " high speed law " their licence is revoked... and when they attempt to ne new their insurance the monthly cost will make your eyes water.


The insurance companies have a special "high risk group " that deals with the repeat offenders, speeders, no insurance, drunks, and those that have caused permanent injuries, or death. The premiums are very high, and there is no legal compulsion to insure a driver, if the insurance company declines to do so.


A recent case here in Ontario, where a drunk driver killed 3 little kids and their Grand Father, and also injured two other adults, all riding in one SUV, resulted in a 10 year prison sentence and a $100,000 fine, and a life time ban on driving, any where in Canada.


So yes, we are very serious about enforcing our traffic laws here. And it starts with the regulations and licence restrictions of every new driver in Ontario, regardless of their age. They all have to go through the 2 year graduated licence program. The exception is for someone who has been licensed in another Province ( for a minimum of at least 5 years ) or in 5 foreign countries, one of which is the USA.




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