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Old 09-27-2017, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Avery Ranch, Austin, TX
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The pink on your map is Round Rock. CoA wouldn't throw money at Amazon to locate a campus in WilCo next to RR.

If the CoA was smart, they would turn the Robinson ranch into affordable / subsidized housing with maybe a homeless shelter.

Good luck with that plan to take private land(not a small piece of property, either) to be developed by another private company...especially the subsidized part.
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Old 09-28-2017, 05:27 AM
 
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Good luck with that plan to take private land(not a small piece of property, either) to be developed by another private company...especially the subsidized part.

If the CoA purchases the land, then why couldn't they? If it gets annexed, then the CoA can require affordable housing from the developer. They do it all the time. Nobody said anything about seizing land.

Everybody wants paychecks, not panhandlers in their part of town.

What is the real reason anyone would want Amazon in their part of town? To raise property values and line their pockets before they leave Austin and take their money with them. Its not for the traffic and overcrowding.
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Old 09-28-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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By the way, just as Dell has a horrible reputation for mistreating its employees, so does Amazon:

A bombshell report by the New York Times two years ago exposed the company’s poor treatment of employees, characterizing the workplace as “bruising”:

At Amazon, workers are encouraged to tear apart one another’s ideas in meetings, toil long and late (emails arrive past midnight, followed by text messages asking why they were not answered), and held to standards that the company boasts are “unreasonably high.” The internal phone directory instructs colleagues on how to send secret feedback to one another’s bosses. Employees say it is frequently used to sabotage others. (The tool offers sample texts, including this: “I felt concerned about his inflexibility and openly complaining about minor tasks.”)

The allegations of mistreatment get even worse. From the Times:

A woman who had thyroid cancer was given a low performance rating after she returned from treatment. She says her manager explained that while she was out, her peers were accomplishing a great deal. Another employee who miscarried twins left for a business trip the day after she had surgery. “I’m sorry, the work is still going to need to get done,” she said her boss told her. “From where you are in life, trying to start a family, I don’t know if this is the right place for you.” A woman who had breast cancer was told that she was put on a “performance improvement plan” — Amazon code for “you’re in danger of being fired” — because “difficulties” in her “personal life” had interfered with fulfilling her work goals. Their accounts echoed others from workers who had suffered health crises and felt they had also been judged harshly instead of being given time to recover. A former human resources executive said she was required to put a woman who had recently returned after undergoing serious surgery, and another who had just had a stillborn child, on performance improvement plans, accounts that were corroborated by a co-worker still at Amazon. “What kind of company do we want to be?” the executive recalled asking her bosses. The mother of the stillborn child soon left Amazon. “I had just experienced the most devastating event in my life,” the woman recalled via email, only to be told her performance would be monitored “to make sure my focus stayed on my job.”

source: https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-dai...dquarters-hq2/

Amazon = Neegan
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Old 09-28-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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If the CoA purchases the land, then why couldn't they? If it gets annexed, then the CoA can require affordable housing from the developer. They do it all the time. Nobody said anything about seizing land.

Everybody wants paychecks, not panhandlers in their part of town.

What is the real reason anyone would want Amazon in their part of town? To raise property values and line their pockets before they leave Austin and take their money with them. Its not for the traffic and overcrowding.
There have been rumors for years that the family only sells for the projects it wants to, not just the highest bidder. Just rumors though.

Last I had checked, the city of austin had that area designated as dense development, similar to the domain, once the family was ready to sell. 800 acres of "the projects" would not be anywhere near the best use of the space. Affordable housing works best when mixed in with unaffordable housing.
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Old 09-28-2017, 09:47 AM
 
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If it gets annexed, then the CoA can require affordable housing from the developer.
Uh, it already was annexed.
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Old 09-28-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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I don't think the city can actually 'require' a developer to build 'affordable housing'.
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Old 09-28-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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Uh, it already was annexed.

Into the city proper, not the etj
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Old 09-28-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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Into the city proper, not the etj
It's not in the ETJ.

Things aren't annexed into the ETJ. They're automatically in the ETJ if they're within 5 miles.


It already was annexed into the city, under "Limited purpose annexation". It's part of Austin. Austin couldn't have already zoned it (it's zoned as a PUD) if they hadn't. The city can't zone ETJ.


ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/npzd/Austi...7Juris-map.pdf
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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The pink on your map is Round Rock. CoA wouldn't throw money at Amazon to locate a campus in WilCo next to RR.

If the CoA was smart, they would turn the Robinson ranch into affordable / subsidized housing with maybe a homeless shelter.

Not to be argumentative, but The CoA ETJ is on the south, the west, the northwest, and the east sides of the Robinson Ranch. Only the northern part is bordered by the Round Rock ETJ.
It has close access to 183, I-35, MoPac & 45 (both of which run through the middle of it). Plus the Metro Rail runs right through it too. Closer to affordable housing & shopping than much of downtown.

Dell Computer and Apple have no problem building massive campuses in Round Rock and on Parmer Lane across the street from the RR.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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It's not in the ETJ.

Things aren't annexed into the ETJ. They're automatically in the ETJ if they're within 5 miles.


It already was annexed into the city, under "Limited purpose annexation". It's part of Austin. Austin couldn't have already zoned it (it's zoned as a PUD) if they hadn't. The city can't zone ETJ.


ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/npzd/Austi...7Juris-map.pdf
I believe you are correct.
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