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Old 06-10-2020, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Denver via Austin
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Well. I'm no law enforcement but for the incident that happened in Austin specifically it did seem a bit excessive to open fire over a water bottle and backpack being lopped at a cop.
I think the Texas State student who got shot point blank in the face with the bean bag, then got shot at when people tried to transport his body away from the scene, and now has a traumatic brain injury, is a pretty blatant use of excessive force. Austin has had some of the worst issues of any city with these protests. I can compile a list of videos for people to decide for themselves if anyone is interested.

 
Old 06-10-2020, 07:52 AM
 
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I think the Texas State student who got shot point blank in the face with the bean bag, then got shot at when people tried to transport his body away from the scene, and now has a traumatic brain injury, is a pretty blatant use of excessive force. Austin has had some of the worst issues of any city with these protests. I can compile a list of videos for people to decide for themselves if anyone is interested.
Was he murdered? No. Stick to the facts.


He assaulted a riot cop and was shot with a non-lethal round.

He knew that would happen to him, and he did it anyways.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 07:57 AM
 
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Every Dem.who ever got a parking ticket is out for this one
 
Old 06-10-2020, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Denver via Austin
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Was he murdered? No. Stick to the facts.


He assaulted a riot cop and was shot with a non-lethal round.

He knew that would happen to him, and he did it anyways.
Didn’t realize barely living, unconscious people didn’t have bodies. He was holding a sign above his head when it happened. Video evidence.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 08:36 AM
 
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Was he murdered? No. Stick to the facts.


He assaulted a riot cop and was shot with a non-lethal round.

He knew that would happen to him, and he did it anyways.
From what I read, he was collateral damage. Someone else assaulted the cop and the cop blindly opened fire and struck him by mistake.

I also can't agree with opening fire over a water bottle and backpack. Too much can go wrong when opening fire in a crowd. Sure if he and others were approaching the cop in a endangering manner or had weapons then by all means do what you need to protect yourself but a water bottle and backpack are anything but dangerous. A nuisance definitely but the non-lethal rounds are far more dangerous than either of those.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Was he murdered? No. Stick to the facts.


He assaulted a riot cop and was shot with a non-lethal round.

He knew that would happen to him, and he did it anyways.
When you join a riot you should understand that you are putting yourself in danger. It really is that simple.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Austin
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a water bottle and backpack are anything but dangerous. A nuisance definitely but the non-lethal rounds are far more dangerous than either of those.
Many of the rioters were throwing frozen water bottles in some cities. Those are potentially lethal.

But even if not frozen you could lose an eye or worse.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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I also can't agree with opening fire over a water bottle and backpack. Too much can go wrong when opening fire in a crowd. Sure if he and others were approaching the cop in a endangering manner or had weapons then by all means do what you need to protect yourself but a water bottle and backpack are anything but dangerous. A nuisance definitely but the non-lethal rounds are far more dangerous than either of those.
Water bottles (some with loose caps) can contain anything:

Urine
Nails
Spit
Gravel
Bleach
Acid
Paint
Broken glass
Other


Backpacks can contain anything, too. Entire buildings and train stations have been emptied because of a single backpack.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Many of the rioters were throwing frozen water bottles in some cities. Those are potentially lethal.

But even if not frozen you could lose an eye or worse.
Much of time, it ain’t water in those bottles. It’s pee, it’s ink, it’s drying concrete.

Urban warfare is getting more violent. Subsequently, so is the response from the police.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 11:16 AM
 
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Much of time, it ain’t water in those bottles. It’s pee, it’s ink, it’s drying concrete.

Urban warfare is getting more violent. Subsequently, so is the response from the police.
Yes, when people use terms like"water bottle" they are trying to make it sound harmless.


My turn:

"Last week, youths across the nation knocked on the windows of stores to borrow merchandise."


^^^ there you go, I just made it sound harmless.
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