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Old 06-10-2020, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Austin
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The Austin City Council in all of their wisdom has decided that the most important thing in policing is the color of our skin. They want to be sure that the skin color ratio of arrests and citations in Austin matches the skin color ratio of the residents. This will be fun to watch.

Will they look at the results toward the end of the month and actively change who they arrest so they can meet their color quota?

Or if they have under arrested Asians one month does that mean they will focus on arresting more Asians the next month?

Is this racism at it's finest?
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Item 50: Zero racial disparity

Eliminates tolerance for racial disparity in police actions and in city departments by establishing the following goals, using the city's Strategic Direction 2023, adopted in 2018, and other audits and measurements ordered by the city in recent years.

They are:

Zero racial disparity in traffic stops.
Zero racial disparity in arrests and citations that result from traffic stops.
Zero use-of-force incidents.
Zero deaths at the hands of APD officers.
Establishes zero racial disparity goals in other city departments in terms of mortality rates and shorter life expectancy, economic mobility, homelessness and housing insecurity.

https://austonia.com/austin-city-council-police-policy

 
Old 06-10-2020, 07:49 AM
 
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If these quotas are on a per precinct basis, then APD (if they still exist) will have their work cut out for them. Imagine being in a minority-heavy area like NE, but the officers have to ensure that 50% of the people pulled over are white.

Imagine you are at out in West Austin at Commons Ford, but the officers have to make sure that 50% of the people they pull over are minorities. <-- Nelson Linder would have a **** fit.

It will never be good enough.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Denver via Austin
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Lol, they’re asking for certain data points to be recorded in various traffic stop/incidences so that it’s possible to audit for bias. It’s not setting racial quotas. It’s asking the police nicely (which will subsequently ignore and face no consequences) to contribute towards a vague and unachievable goal.

Also, y’all never heard of “driving while black”? I realize it would mean actually knowing black people beyond superficial acquaintance, but it’s a real thing.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Lol, they’re asking for certain data points to be recorded in various traffic stop/incidences so that it’s possible to audit for bias. It’s not setting racial quotas. It’s asking the police nicely (which will subsequently ignore and face no consequences) to contribute towards a vague and unachievable goal.
When you set a goal, people try to meet the goal. They clearly stated the goal is racial quotas. They are not looking to eliminate bias. They are trying to achieve bias.

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Also, y’all never heard of “driving while black”? I realize it would mean actually knowing black people beyond superficial acquaintance, but it’s a real thing.
So is "driving while in college". It's a real thing. Personal experience.

So is "driving while in a sports car". It's a real thing. Personal experience.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Denver via Austin
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When you set a goal, people try to meet the goal. They clearly stated the goal is racial quotas. They are not looking to eliminate bias. They are trying to achieve bias.
That isn’t in the text in any of the sources. You also don’t seem very keen to how government or law works.

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So is "driving while in college". It's a real thing. Personal experience.

So is "driving while in a sports car". It's a real thing. Personal experience.
It’s almost like most police are unintelligent goons who only know how to do lazy profiling.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Austin
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That isn’t in the text in any of the sources. You also don’t seem very keen to how government or law works.
It's exactly what is in the text as reported in the link. Maybe the media is wrong like they frequently are.

And I know quite a bit about how governments work. I also know the power of setting goals.



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It’s almost like most police are unintelligent goons who only know how to do lazy profiling.
Some of them are.
 
Old 06-10-2020, 08:35 AM
 
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The crime of “Driving while Black” has become “Thinking while White.”
 
Old 06-10-2020, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Denver via Austin
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It's exactly what is in the text as reported in the link. Maybe the media is wrong like they frequently are.

And I know quite a bit about how governments work. I also know the power of setting goals.
That’s why you check their sources. They’re linked in that article. I wouldn’t say their characterization is misleading so much as lying. Also, police aren’t accountable to anyone. Why do you think they’d cooperate with anything asked of them?

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Some of them are.
Wouldn’t you like to see them flushed out of the system without the whole department and union covering for them?
 
Old 06-10-2020, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Holly Neighborhood, Austin, Texas
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An example.....It could also be considered unfair that young males pay more for auto insurance than young female or older male cohorts. The fact is there is data that actuaries use that show they are higher risk and therefore are not unfairly targeted with higher insurance premiums. To not acknowledge inequities in behavior across different groups is just putting your head in the sand. Are they going to let drunk drivers go in certain cases because they don't want to skew their numbers? Crimes that we can't debate their existence like homicide have widely varying rates across Austin, but they are concentrated in lower income areas. Should we encourage more homicides in Tarrytown and ignore those along Rundberg so things are "equitable."

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Old 06-10-2020, 09:32 AM
 
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An example.....It could also be considered unfair that young males pay more for auto insurance than young female or older male cohorts. The fact is there is data that actuaries use that show they are higher risk and therefore are not unfairly targeted with higher insurance premiums. To not acknowledge inequities in behavior across different groups is just putting your head in the sand. Are they going to let drunk drivers go in certain cases because they don't want to skew their numbers?

What if home and auto insurance agencies go the path of Obamacare? We would live in a world where even LESS people have car insurance. If they are from an older, more responsible demographic, they are going to pay severely for this policy of social engineering.

Maybe we can keep our insurance, while the young, poor and predominantly minority populations get tax-payer subsidized mandatory insurance.

Vote Dem in November, and be prepared for this to be a viable topic, along with reparations.
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