Do you have a "bug out" threshold for COVID in Austin/Central Texas? (West: rental, insurance)

[riaelise]

Originally Posted by N610DL

For me I'm heading to one of the Beach Cities in the South Bay and has it's own municipality (so technically L.A. County but not the City of L.A.) and likely establishes different laws for going out to bars and restaurants.

There's one *big* differentiator with COVID-19 between most of the Sun Belt and the Northeast: Death Count. Texas is currently around 3,500 & California is around 7,200. New Jersey is at 15,634 and a few weeks ago death count was below 13K. So yes, the death rate is still going up out there and it would take an insane amount of virus contraction for states like TX and CA to catch up to NJ. It's insane to believe the death rate of COVID is double in NJ versus the entire state of CA. And NY is beyond comprehension with over 32K total dead at this point.


Another point of comparison: Confirmed cases in TX is 286,000 and NJ is 178,000 but the death count is nearly 5x greater in NJ than TX.



I also have friends in NJ who's parents and extended family caught it and got over it relatively quickly. When I talk to friends and family in NJ they often ask "do you know of anyone *personally* who caught the virus and died" and the answer is a hard no. However, it seems like everyone I talk to in NJ knows at least one person by some association who has. Bottom line: It seems like absolute hell to be up there right now compared to most of the country.


Honestly, I have no idea of the timeline of fully reopening anywhere at this point. I'm willing to bet it's going to be similar with CA, TX, AZ no matter where you go.

There's been an article about Texas's death rate and it is misleading. We may not have as many deaths on paper, but it is escalating vs. the Northeast, where it has been on the decline.

Texas wasn't as hard hit initially as the Northeast but it is more than playing catch up right now - cases have more than doubled and we're challenging California for #2 in the nation. What is troubling is that there is little encouragement that things are going to go anywhere other than up.

As for the Northeast, it is far more dense than Texas. Texas as a state has a bigger population sure, but NYC and urban NJ are right on up there with Hong Kong as far I'm concerned, perfect for transmitting any disease..

[mschrief]

We (senior citizens) are leaving WA state next month for Texas. Not particularly worried as we take precautions and avoid people.

Hardest thing is getting home seller into contingent contract. We had hoped to be able to close a few days after arriving but sellers seem paranoid. Offer big bucks over list doesn't seem to make a difference. Oh well. Extended stay hotel for us for a month or so I guess.

[N610DL]

Originally Posted by riaelise

There's been an article about Texas's death rate and it is misleading. We may not have as many deaths on paper, but it is escalating vs. the Northeast, where it has been on the decline.

Texas wasn't as hard hit initially as the Northeast but it is more than playing catch up right now - cases have more than doubled and we're challenging California for #2 in the nation. What is troubling is that there is little encouragement that things are going to go anywhere other than up.

As for the Northeast, it is far more dense than Texas. Texas as a state has a bigger population sure, but NYC and urban NJ are right on up there with Hong Kong as far I'm concerned, perfect for transmitting any disease..

Impossible: the death count in NJ has increased 3K since around the last time we had a shutdown in June.

[Idlewile]

Originally Posted by N610DL

Impossible: the death count in NJ has increased 3K since around the last time we had a shutdown in June.

What is "impossible"? This sentence makes no sense; not following.

[riaelise]

Originally Posted by CNCguy512

New York = 32,000 deaths
New York population = 19.45 million

Texas = 3,532 deaths
Texas population = 29 million

Houston = 5th biggest metro
San Antonio = 24th biggest metro
Austin = 25th biggest metro
Dallas/Ft. Worth = 4th biggest metro


Yeah.... We sure do have a lot of catching up to do......

Neither Houston, Dallas, San Antonio nor Austin are anywhere close to the population density of New York City or Los Angeles. Most of the New York cases are clustered in NYC and its suburbs, not NY state, which is sprawly like Texas. NYC alone comprises most of the population of New York State.

My point still stands - the Northeast is gaining some traction with management of the virus, unlike here where things are escalating by the day. Texas doesn't have some magical properties that prevent people from dying, lol...

[N610DL]

Originally Posted by CNCguy512

New York = 32,000 deaths
New York population = 19.45 million

Texas = 3,532 deaths
Texas population = 29 million

Houston = 5th biggest metro
San Antonio = 24th biggest metro
Austin = 25th biggest metro
Dallas/Ft. Worth = 4th biggest metro


Yeah.... We sure do have a lot of catching up to do......

"WAHHH!!!! ME RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG - I'M TELLING!!!!!" Don't throw *VAGUE* statistics down my throat & act like a First Grader - clearly it's because you won't get your way. You clearly want everyone to get infected.


You got a lot of catching up to do, Mentally. Either way, I'd love to see you buckle down in a NYC Subway from germs at this point because you probably wouldn't even how to know to ride one.


Stop trolling Pr***. Leave it alone.

[Austin97]

Originally Posted by mschrief

We (senior citizens) are leaving WA state next month for Texas. Not particularly worried as we take precautions and avoid people.

Hardest thing is getting home seller into contingent contract. We had hoped to be able to close a few days after arriving but sellers seem paranoid. Offer big bucks over list doesn't seem to make a difference. Oh well. Extended stay hotel for us for a month or so I guess.

the market here is so hot, very few will do a contingent contract.

[Austin97]

Originally Posted by Idlewile

What is "impossible"? This sentence makes no sense; not following.

I think the person is saying that new jersey has 3000 deaths since june, so it cant be true that deaths are declining in the northeast.

Obviously that logic is incorrect.

[riaelise]

Originally Posted by CNCguy512

And most of Texas cases are from the city too. NYC has a pop density of 26k per sq mile, while Dallas has 3,800 per sq mile. Not to mention 4 major metro areas. If you do the math comparing death rate to population NYC is like 60% more deaths per sq mile when density is equated. We would need roughly 3000 more deaths to be considered equal to NYC density rate, and thats just considering ONE city, not that besides buffalo, Texas has many diverse large cities to equate for.


Im so sorry to put a different light on your liberal narrative. It must really bother you that some of us arent automated imbeciles who cant think outside of groupthink.

FYI, roughly 3,700 people die a year on Texas roads. Should we shut down our roadways?

I've dismissed both your post and your argument as nonsense the moment you felt the need to use the word "liberal" to bolster yourself. That shows weak sauce debate skills and I need not waste my time further. btw, your responses are nothing noteworthy, and i honestly don't care on a personal level if you are or aren't an imbecile, as long as you wear a mask and stay six feet the hell away away from me.

[riaelise]

Originally Posted by Austin97

I think the person is saying that new jersey has 3000 deaths since june, so it cant be true that deaths are declining in the northeast.

Obviously that logic is incorrect.

well good golly don't take my word for it

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...-surge/614122/

in the chart "regional new deaths" the northeast is clearly showing a decline, whereas the south and west are not. so there's nothing wrong with my logic.

again, there's nothing magical in the air here that prevents people from dying.