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Old 02-18-2010, 02:01 PM
 
Location: London.
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Apparently his wife is Sheryl Stack an Austin musician.

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Old 02-18-2010, 02:08 PM
 
Location: austin
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Apparently his wife is Sheryl Stack and Austin musician.
...as if this couldn't possibly be depressing enough.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:08 PM
 
Location: G-Town
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the point is though, that the isp didn't remove the document only hours after the incident.
Agreed. Although I'm not interested in playing "who's on the grassy knoll". I just don't think pedophiles should be allowed a forum for fame... they should be marched out into the desert and shot, with no fanfare.

With this guy, some will label him a crackpot, others a revolutionary, but in the end, the facts are he's guilty of attempted murder. Peoples lives are worth more than politics. And despite his best efforts, he'll be nothing more than a footnote in the Post 9/11 world in a few years and the only thing that will have changed is his wife no longer has a husband and his daughter no longer has a father and their lives will be forever impacted by being relatives of "that guy who flew the plane into the building in Austin". It's just sad.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:10 PM
 
Location: London.
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you're so off base. i would love to live in the world you do.

"There are ways that we can understand why he may have been motivated to take such actions" - yeah, by reading the manifesto.
Well I do believe Stack touched on such people in his missive.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:14 PM
 
Location: London.
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Agreed. Although I'm not interested in playing "who's on the grassy knoll". I just don't think pedophiles should be allowed a forum for fame... they should be marched out into the desert and shot, with no fanfare.

With this guy, some will label him a crackpot, others a revolutionary, but in the end, the facts are he's guilty of attempted murder. Peoples lives are worth more than politics. And despite his best efforts, he'll be nothing more than a footnote in the Post 9/11 world in a few years and the only thing that will have changed is his wife no longer has a husband and his daughter no longer has a father and their lives will be forever impacted by being relatives of "that guy who flew the plane into the building in Austin". It's just sad.
Except when it comes to war I'm led to believe. Just sayin.....
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:14 PM
 
Location: G-Town
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We are responsible for everything we do. No one else controls our actions.
Just quoting that because too many people seem to fail to grasp this basic tenant of freedom.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Universal City, Texas
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the point is though, that the isp didn't remove the document only hours after the incident.
I think the ISP might have reacted to the thousands of hits on its site that it wasn't prepared to take. His site might have a set limit and the thousands, or millions, of hits caused the ISP to shut it down. Economics.

I was probably going up to take a look at the site. The incident reminded me of Heaven's Gate back in the 90's. I remember making a link to their site back in the day.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven&...eligious_group)



I'm afraid that this incident will be watched by the true terrosists who might start some copy cat events.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:32 PM
 
Location: austin
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I think the ISP might have reacted to the thousands of hits on its site that it wasn't prepared to take. His site might have a set limit and the thousands, or millions, of hits caused the ISP to shut it down. Economics.

I was probably going up to take a look at the site. The incident reminded me of Heaven's Gate back in the 90's. I remember making a link to their site back in the day.

I'm afraid that this incident will be watched by the true terrosists who might start some copy cat events.
you are quite possibly correct. although the site would have rapidly experienced increased bandwidth regardless of the info being taken off the site.

either way, it would appear as if the isp for embeddedart.com has put a link on the page to the complete manifesto, which i'm pleasantly surprised by. although, now thesmokinggun.com will see those millions of hits in return.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Stack's manifesto is on tens of thousands of websites already, so if anyone wants to read it just do a search on some terms like "manifesto Austin plane IRS" and you'll be overwhelmed with options.

It's a good read. I'm trying to divorce the atrocity he committed from the articulate letter he wrote. It's pathetic that all the mainstream news outlets are referring to his manifesto as rambling, insane, and hard to follow. I spent 6 years grading the papers of seniors in Marketing at UT and their writing was far less coherent than what was written by Joe Stack.

Unfortunately, his method for expressing his rage will only serve to empower the very government interests against which he railed. Now anyone who posts anything sympathetic to him will probably get on the Homeland Security radar. Stack was right about most of what he said.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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The site did say that the post was taken down by the FBI; however, I think it did point to another site that did have the contents included. The FBI may have been searching additional info on his site and did not want all the hits or possibly someone else with access removing/altering anything.
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