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Old 09-01-2010, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Canberra is even colder than Christchurch during winter! It is a bit sunnier though.

Presumably houses in Canberra are insulated to a greater extent than elsewhere in Aus?
Not sure about that as I've never lived there, but I do recall a friend of mine saying once that he literally ran to the shower each morning during winter as his Canberra apartment was freezing!
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Was it worth while me posting to this thread?

I figured other posters could cover the differences between different city's climates, so initially I wasn't going to bother posting. But it seemed like at least Hairy wanted to hear my opinions, so I thought it might be fun to unload my opinions of each city's climate based on what I've read at BOM.

Interesting that Christchurch's winters are also milder than Canberra's.

Comparisons between North American winters and Canberra's are "apples and oranges" in terms of living-difficulty, since here we all-but-expect to be comfortable anywhere indoors. Outdoors however, Canberra's frosty winters vaugely resemble winters or late-autumns in eastern North America and their frostiness might mean more European deciduous trees would thive, adding familiarity.
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Old 09-02-2010, 01:56 AM
 
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia
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Canberra is even colder than Christchurch during winter! It is a bit sunnier though.

Presumably houses in Canberra are insulated to a greater extent than elsewhere in Aus?
Canberrans are prepared for winter more than anywhere else in Australia.
100 frosts a year is not to be sneezed at.
Most houses have either central heating or reverse cycle air-conditioning.
I spent a winter in the Darling Downs area of Queensland, and the houses there were certainly not prepared for the cold, even though the winter was brief by southern standards.
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Old 09-02-2010, 02:47 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Canberrans are prepared for winter more than anywhere else in Australia.
100 frosts a year is not to be sneezed at.
Most houses have either central heating or reverse cycle air-conditioning.
I spent a winter in the Darling Downs area of Queensland, and the houses there were certainly not prepared for the cold, even though the winter was brief by southern standards.
I live in a fibro house which offers as much insulation as a cardbox box, according to Vichel (think it was you? lol). First couple of weeks in Bridgetown we had a number of mornings dipping to -2, -3 and the house definitely got down to single digits. Had a bottle of olive oil that said 'may become cloudy at 7C' - it wasn't just cloudy, was like candle wax! Using it in the morning was more like using butter or honey.
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Old 09-02-2010, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Canberrans are prepared for winter more than anywhere else in Australia.
100 frosts a year is not to be sneezed at.
Most houses have either central heating or reverse cycle air-conditioning.

I spent a winter in the Darling Downs area of Queensland, and the houses there were certainly not prepared for the cold, even though the winter was brief by southern standards.
Good to know.

What are they thinking?
Parts of Darling Downs are easily colder than Adelaide, Melbourne or Sydney in winter. (altitude)
Take a captain's at this:

Stanthorpe QLD:
Lowest monthly avg hi/lo of 14.8 C/1.0 C, record low -10.6 C, coldest high 4.0 C.
Climate statistics for Australian locations

Applethorpe QLD:
Lowest monthly avg hi/lo of 13.9/1.9 C, record of -8.4 C, coldest recorded high 2.9 C
Climate statistics for Australian locations

Which part of Darling Downs were you in btw?
Toowoomba is milder than them, perhaps "heat island" helps them.
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Old 09-02-2010, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC
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I live in a fibro house which offers as much insulation as a cardbox box, according to Vichel (think it was you? lol). First couple of weeks in Bridgetown we had a number of mornings dipping to -2, -3 and the house definitely got down to single digits. Had a bottle of olive oil that said 'may become cloudy at 7C' - it wasn't just cloudy, was like candle wax! Using it in the morning was more like using butter or honey.
Yeah, that was me. Been in fibro houses in winter, so I know what it's like. You poor thing!

Even in a brick home, last night, left the family room which has heating, to our bedroom and bathroom, which doesn't .... BRRRRRR! There's that sudden, uncomfortable cold, your once-warm clothes are cold against your skin, the bathroom tiles are like ice-blocks, and there'll be no warming up til you get into bed. Even then, the sheets are freezing. I hate flannel sheets but I can understand why people use them all winter. Must be much worse for you.

How's the olive oil? It should have survived the experience. Unlike Coldie, he wouldn't ... (just kidding, CC! ) Note to CC: don't move to Bridgetown. Don't live in a fibro house anywhere. Cheap and nasty those houses. Cheap and nasty.
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Old 09-02-2010, 06:38 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Yeah, that was me. Been in fibro houses in winter, so I know what it's like. You poor thing!

Even in a brick home, last night, left the family room which has heating, to our bedroom and bathroom, which doesn't .... BRRRRRR! There's that sudden, uncomfortable cold, your once-warm clothes are cold against your skin, the bathroom tiles are like ice-blocks, and there'll be no warming up til you get into bed. Even then, the sheets are freezing. I hate flannel sheets but I can understand why people use them all winter. Must be much worse for you.

How's the olive oil? It should have survived the experience. Unlike Coldie, he wouldn't ... (just kidding, CC! ) Note to CC: don't move to Bridgetown. Don't live in a fibro house anywhere. Cheap and nasty those houses. Cheap and nasty.
Ah, get what you pay for don't you? Yeah that's one of the worst things. Without heating my bed feels more like an ice-block, and all my clothes feel damp from the cold . You dress in there like you would outdoors, pretty much, lol.

Yeah when you get used to heating it's hard to go back to going without.
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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How's the olive oil? It should have survived the experience. Unlike Coldie, he wouldn't ... (just kidding, CC! ) Note to CC: don't move to Bridgetown. Don't live in a fibro house anywhere. Cheap and nasty those houses. Cheap and nasty.
Lol.

After my autumn camping experience in the Gulf States,
I believe I could accomodate "cardboard box" levels of insulation and warmth, somewhere lows below 10 C most of the year are "rare-ish."
Camping wasn't too hard when the lows stayed 10+ C.

In your opinion, does that also rule out Perth?
I know that Adelaide is definitely pushing it, with an annual avg. low of 11 C.

Thanks for telling me about fibro.
You seem convinced they are the worst for insulation that Oz has to offer.
(but at least they're fire-retardent; good in a bush fire)
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Even in a brick home, last night, left the family room which has heating, to our bedroom and bathroom, which doesn't .... BRRRRRR! There's that sudden, uncomfortable cold, your once-warm clothes are cold against your skin, the bathroom tiles are like ice-blocks, and there'll be no warming up til you get into bed. Even then, the sheets are freezing. I hate flannel sheets but I can understand why people use them all winter. Must be much worse for you.
Now imagine this nine months of the year -- that's Christchurch!

Don't you live in Perth? It's difficult to imagine it being cold there. I would've though lows of 5 C or lower are uncommon and usually accompanied by daily temps in the high teens?

Do they have electric blankets in Aus?
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia
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Good to know.

What are they thinking?
Parts of Darling Downs are easily colder than Adelaide, Melbourne or Sydney in winter. (altitude)
Take a captain's at this:

Stanthorpe QLD:
Lowest monthly avg hi/lo of 14.8 C/1.0 C, record low -10.6 C, coldest high 4.0 C.
Climate statistics for Australian locations

Applethorpe QLD:
Lowest monthly avg hi/lo of 13.9/1.9 C, record of -8.4 C, coldest recorded high 2.9 C
Climate statistics for Australian locations

Which part of Darling Downs were you in btw?
Toowoomba is milder than them, perhaps "heat island" helps them.
I was in the Western Downs, near Dalby.
Nowhere near as cold as the places listed above, which are also known as part of the "Granite Belt", the coldest area in Queensland and geologically part of the New England area - a very high plateau (by Oz standards) in northern NSW.
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