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Old 08-06-2013, 12:12 AM
 
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What is the freeway system like in Australian big cities? (If there are freeways?)

Any pictures people can share? Highways with multi-lanes...overpasses?

Are there stores and services or billboards that line the highways the way they do in the US?
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:25 AM
 
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What is the freeway system like in Australian big cities? (If there are freeways?)

Any pictures people can share? Highways with multi-lanes...overpasses?

Are there stores and services or billboards that line the highways the way they do in the US?
Lots of private tollways on the east coast; called "motorways" in Qld and NSW to distinguish them from genuine "freeways", while in Victoria they use the term "freeway" for both free and privately owned toll roads.

"Very average" is as positive as I'd be about the road system in Sydney and Melbourne.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:32 AM
 
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Lots of private tollways on the east coast; called "motorways" in Qld and NSW to distinguish them from genuine "freeways", while in Victoria they use the term "freeway" for both free and privately owned toll roads.
A motorway is a genuine freeway. It has nothing to do with tolling and everything to do with how access is controlled.

OP, here's a few pics from around Sydney...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wa...h_Freeway1.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wa...h_Freeway3.jpg

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/p...m/49352394.jpg

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/p...m/13275740.jpg

http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/Freeways/F7/10.JPG

http://www.hassellstudio.com/cms_ima...-2011_3250.png
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:37 AM
 
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A motorway is a genuine freeway. It has nothing to do with tolling and everything to do with having ramp access to the road.

Motorway / Freeway Guide to Sydney
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:38 AM
 
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Ok so do these highways resemble the US system? How many lanes in the cities in general? Are there restaurants, retail and billboards...gas stations etc alongside these highways?
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:41 AM
 
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Dude, motorway is a synonym for freeway.

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A controlled-access highway is a highway designed exclusively for high-speed vehicular traffic, with all traffic flow and ingress/egress regulated. They are known by various terms worldwide, including Autobahn, autostrada, autopista, autoroute, freeway, motorway, otoyol, snelweg, thruway, and sometimes less precise terms such as expressway, highway, Interstate, or parkway.
Controlled-access highway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Once you see this sign (in Australia they are green background not blue) , you're not on a motorway anymore. Example is when driving from Sydney to Canberra just after the Mittagong interchange it ceases being a motorway and becomes a freeway and is signposted as such. After that point there are at grade t-intersections with the highway, instead of ramps.
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:47 AM
 
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Dude, a motorway is a synonym for a freeway.
But notice how the all the "motorways" have tolls, while the "freeways" don't. "Motorway" started being used in Sydney when they opened the first tollways in the city, and hasn't been applied to the freeways e.g. F3, F5 and F6.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/usingroads...ing/index.html
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:49 AM
 
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Ok so do these highways resemble the US system? How many lanes in the cities in general? Are there restaurants, retail and billboards...gas stations etc alongside these highways?
2 or 3 lanes each way. Some of the bigger distributors may have more lanes but they will generally be quite short. Australian highways have nowhere near the amount of food outlets that US ones do. In the cities, the motorways have no amentities (probably because the corrider available to the government is too narrow).
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Old 08-06-2013, 12:53 AM
 
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But notice how the all the "motorways" have tolls, while the "freeways" don't. "Motorway" started being used in Sydney when they opened the first tollways in the city, and hasn't been applied to the freeways e.g. F3, F5 and F6.
No. Those names have been superseeded. The correct name for the F3 is Pacific Motorway and for the F6 the Princes Motorway.

Princes Motorway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pacific Motorway (Sydney

The road designation for both is M1, not F3/F6.

The "free" in "freeway" has nothing to do with tolls and everything to do with access control.
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Old 08-06-2013, 01:04 AM
 
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Pacific Motorway (Sydney

The road designation for both is M1, not F3/F6.
..but I got to this part:

In addition to the National Highway 1 designation, the freeway at one stage carried the Freeway Route 3 (F3) designation. This route numbering system, introduced in 1971, was to provide distinctive route numbering and signage for freeways in Sydney and the surrounding areas. Although the route was never signed with the F3 route marker (the numbering system was removed in the late 1980s), the route is now widely known as the F3 Freeway, with this title being used not only colloquially but on all state and federal government documents and web sites. The median crossover signs (located every 1 km) feature an F3 identification sign; in addition, various directional signs also read "F3 FREEWAY" alongside the M1 or National Highway 1 route number.

Doesn't "M1" also apply to the Princes Freeway from Melbourne to Geelong?
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