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Old 11-17-2013, 02:51 PM
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I know there are a ton of these threads, but opinions change over time (mostly based on the US standing in the world and how much we seem to be abusing our power to push other countries around). My wife, daughter, and I will be going to Australia (Sydney/Melbourne) for the first time, next week.

I understand that (obviously) not all Aussies are the same and that there will always be a group that hates outsiders and a group that loves outsiders, but in general, what would you say the current climate is there for American tourists?

I would have always assumed that Australians would be more open to American tourists than most countries are to American tourists, but I thought I'd ask.
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:18 PM
 
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I understand that (obviously) not all Aussies are the same and that there will always be a group that hates outsiders and a group that loves outsiders, but in general, what would you say the current climate is there for American tourists?

I would have always assumed that Australians would be more open to American tourists than most countries are to American tourists, but I thought I'd ask.
In a lot of ways the Australian world view is not that much different to America's. Whether you consider that "good" or "bad" is up to you.

While the US plays "global cop" to a degree, Australia has generally been involved in a lot of the same conflicts/issues, and likes to exert "regional influence" in places like East Timor, the Solomon Islands, and the SW Pacific generally. And Australia's own stance on issues like border security is controversial enough; most Aussies would not even think about lecturing other countries on those sorts of issues.

A few Americans I've run into over the last few years seemed very apologetic, which I found odd. Yep, a lot of Aussies didn't think much of GW Bush, but they were equally unimpressed by our PM of the time John Howard, aka "Bonsai" as in little bush....

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Old 11-17-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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I know there are a ton of these threads, but opinions change over time (mostly based on the US standing in the world and how much we seem to be abusing our power to push other countries around). My wife, daughter, and I will be going to Australia (Sydney/Melbourne) for the first time, next week.

I understand that (obviously) not all Aussies are the same and that there will always be a group that hates outsiders and a group that loves outsiders, but in general, what would you say the current climate is there for American tourists?

I would have always assumed that Australians would be more open to American tourists than most countries are to American tourists, but I thought I'd ask.

The same its always been, and probably always will be - we like Americans. Just don't be too loud
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Old 11-17-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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While the US plays "global cop" to a degree, Australia has generally been involved in a lot of the same conflicts/issues
OMG "Global cop" Richard seriously that's incredibly naive and VERY American! , there is a war going on for global resources its bean raging for decades especially in the Middle East. There is no coincidence the Middle East has the largest Oil Reserves and the US/West is so heavily involved there. Exchange the word "cop" for "bully" and that's a lot closer.

All that said, pretty much the entire West owes its wealth to this resource control, those of us that complain are largely hypocrites as we enjoy the standard of living.

Those that have the biggest guns rule the world, its ALWAYS been that way.

As people Americans are usually friendly and usually mean well.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:10 PM
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Let's try this again.

How can we expect to be treated as American tourists in Australia these days? Are Aussies in general still happy to see American visitors?
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:18 PM
 
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Let's try this again.

How can we expect to be treated as American tourists in Australia these days? Are Aussies in general still happy to see American visitors?
Yes. Why wouldn't we be?
Not sure why you're talking about "these days".
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:35 PM
 
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OMG "Global cop" Richard seriously that's incredibly naive and VERY American! , there is a war going on for global resources its bean raging for decades especially in the Middle East. There is no coincidence the Middle East has the largest Oil Reserves and the US/West is so heavily involved there. Exchange the word "cop" for "bully" and that's a lot closer.

All that said, pretty much the entire West owes its wealth to this resource control, those of us that complain are largely hypocrites as we enjoy the standard of living.

Those that have the biggest guns rule the world, its ALWAYS been that way.

As people Americans are usually friendly and usually mean well.
I know you Kiwis see some things very differently to Aussies but what's factually incorrect about that statement.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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Let's try this again.

How can we expect to be treated as American tourists in Australia these days? Are Aussies in general still happy to see American visitors?
Why wouldn't we be happy to see American visitors, whether here for a holiday or short stay for work?
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:46 PM
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Why wouldn't we be happy to see American visitors, whether here for a holiday or short stay for work?
It was more about Americans than it was about Aussies. I know that when a good friend of mine went to Australia in 2003, he found most Aussies interested in talking to him and excited to see an American tourist. I wasn't sure if the Bush years and a decade of our standing degrading around the world would lead to Aussies being a little "less" excited about running in to an American.

For example, it used to be that Americans were treated pretty well in a lot of countries where we are now seen as annoying, pushy nuisances. When I was last in Prague, we were treated quite terribly by the locals who, upon finding out we were American, got hostile and nasty rather quickly; no matter how humble, apologetic, and nice we were to them.
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Old 11-17-2013, 05:48 PM
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Yes. Why wouldn't we be?
Not sure why you're talking about "these days".
My sincere apologies. When I posted my "let's try this again" post, I was on my phone and completely missed your first post. All I saw was the next couple posts where it looked like the thread was veering off in to another galaxy.
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