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Old 07-23-2020, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I cant see that happening when 'average' highs in a New Zealand Summer are in the high teens/low twenties! If they had 60 plus days a year of 30+ temps they would need another 60 days of highs in single figures!

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...argill/climate
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...ckland/climate
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...ington/climate

https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/uk/london/climate
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...ampton/climate
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...ingham/climate
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/...hester/climate

The weather in New Zealand looks 'similar' to England to me, New Zealand looks a tad warmer across the winter months.
Very easy to get 60 days of single figures somewhere in NZ.

Climates may be somewhat similar on a global level, but taking Southhampton as an example of a warmer UK climate, it's average daytime maximum for the three winter months, is a maximum temperature my town would only see once every 3-4 years on average. It would also be the cloudiest town in NZ
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Old 07-23-2020, 02:51 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Very easy to get 60 days of single figures somewhere in NZ.

Climates may be somewhat similar on a global level, but taking Southhampton as an example of a warmer UK climate, it's average daytime maximum for the three winter months, is a maximum temperature my town would only see once every 3-4 years on average. It would also be the cloudiest town in NZ
Still............looks pretty bloody similar to me. The south coast of the UK gets good amounts of sunshine over the Summer months, its not so much 'cloud' that hampers totals so much but the fact that the UK is so far north, seriously the sun hardly pops its head above the horizon in the winter months! In fact the UK would have a very different set of temperatures if it wasn't for the gulf stream, its te Gulf Stream that makes the UK unique weatherwise amongst 'other' places on the globe so far north (or south for that matter).
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:04 PM
 
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Still............looks pretty bloody similar to me. The south coast of the UK gets good amounts of sunshine over the Summer months, its not so much 'cloud' that hampers totals so much but the fact that the UK is so far north, seriously the sun hardly pops its head above the horizon in the winter months! In fact the UK would have a very different set of temperatures if it wasn't for the gulf stream, its te Gulf Stream that makes the UK unique weatherwise amongst 'other' places on the globe so far north (or south for that matter).
Sunshine can also be recorded as a percentage of possible sunshine - my location gets around 15% more sunshine by percentage in winter, than Southampton gets in summer.

No arguing that the climates aren't somewhat similar on a global scale, or that the UK isn't warm for it's latitude, but it isn't the close match for climate for NZ that northern Spain or SW France is.
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:17 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Sunshine can also be recorded as a percentage of possible sunshine - my location gets around 15% more sunshine by percentage in winter, than Southampton gets in summer.

No arguing that the climates aren't somewhat similar on a global scale, or that the UK isn't warm for it's latitude, but it isn't the close match for climate for NZ that northern Spain or SW France is.
Believe it or not the Sussex Coast in England gets the same yearly amount of sunshine as the SW of France.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._hours_map.png

I knew you wouldn't believe me unless I posted this - also Southampton gets 220 hours of sunshine in July are you seriously telling me that your location gets 15% more sunshine than that in the Winter!! Thats 253 hours! I find that hard to believe! Where are you Arizona!?
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:20 PM
 
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Believe it or not the Sussex Coast in England gets the same yearly amount of sunshine as the SW of France.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F..._hours_map.png

I knew you wouldn't believe me unless I posted this - also Southampton gets 220 hours of sunshine in July are you seriously telling me that your location gets 15% more sunshine than that in the Winter!! Thats 253 hours! I find that hard to believe! Where are you Arizona!?
Sunniest UK location is still below the average for NZ - I have no problem believing that.

Convert the hours to percentages of possible sunshine.
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:30 PM
 
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Sunniest UK location is still below the average for NZ - I have no problem believing that.

Convert the hours to percentages of possible sunshine.
Because of this thread I've had a peek at weather averages in Wellington and Aukland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland

Neither of these places seem a lot 'sunnier' both just over 2000 hours is about 314 hours more than Southampton and only about 200 more than where I am (though you are right of course where I live is the high end for England), it amounts to about 45mins more each day on average. Also I notice that the record high temperatures in these cities are somewhat low - both have record highs around 30 degrees - I cant imagine these places get 'over 30' degrees multiple times a year!? Looking at these graphs make me think that the weather in NZ is even more similar to weather here than I first thought!
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:45 PM
 
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Because of this thread I've had a peek at weather averages in Wellington and Aukland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland

Neither of these places seem a lot 'sunnier' both just over 2000 hours is about 314 hours more than Southampton and only about 200 more than where I am (though you are right of course where I live is the high end for England), it amounts to about 45mins more each day on average. Also I notice that the record high temperatures in these cities are somewhat low - both have record highs around 30 degrees - I cant imagine these places get 'over 30' degrees multiple times a year!? Looking at these graphs make me think that the weather in NZ is even more similar to weather here than I first thought!
Don't think I said a lot sunnier. Auckland and and Wellington both record around 2150 hours in their sunniest parts - those other stats are just the airport stats. NZ also has sunnier regions and much drier regions.

Auckland and Wellington are both cities not known for high maximums - westerly climates. Think of them as a NZ version of Cornwall.

The UK lacks many climates NZ has, while NZ has pretty much every climate the UK has
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Old 07-23-2020, 03:52 PM
 
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Don't think I said a lot sunnier. Auckland and and Wellington both record around 2150 hours in their sunniest parts - those other stats are just the airport stats. NZ also has sunnier regions and much drier regions.

Auckland and Wellington are both cities not known for high maximums - westerly climates.

The UK lacks many climates NZ has, while NZ has pretty much every climate the UK has
The 'driest' regions of the UK average around 575mm - 600mm of rain per year, thats in Norfolk, Suffolk, the Thames Estuary and Kent, what does the driest regions of NZ get? I notice again that Wellington and Aukland get around 1200mm which is more akin to Glasgow (one of the wettest parts of the UK)
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Old 07-23-2020, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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The 'driest' regions of the UK average around 575mm - 600mm of rain per year, thats in Norfolk, Suffolk, the Thames Estuary and Kent, what does the driest regions of NZ get? I notice again that Wellington and Aukland get around 1200mm which is more akin to Glasgow (one of the wettest parts of the UK)
Driest parts of NZ are around 300mm.

Rainfall by itself means little - my climate gets around 1400mm, but gets less days of rain than the driest part of the UK.
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Old 07-23-2020, 04:19 PM
 
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Driest parts of NZ are around 300mm.

Rainfall by itself means little - my climate gets around 1400mm, but gets less days of rain than the driest part of the UK.
Where in NZ gets 300mm? Do you have a link? seriously I am interested but again not very 'different' then, I see on average it rains on average 124.5 days a year in Wellington and 135.7 days a year in Aukland, in comparison its 109.6 in London, 114.7 in Southampton, 115.9 in Birmingham which doesn't really match what youre saying?
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