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Yes, it is just another stat and really doesn't amount to much technically but it certainly does psychologically.
When Toronto overtook Montreal in the mid-70s it was a huge blow to Montreal's self esteem as they had to accept the fact that they are now 2nd place and conversely was a big boost for Torontonians' insecurity. The old adage is true.........size matters.
Of course there is a big difference between Tor/Mon & Syd/Mel in that Toronto has been growing much faster than Montreal since the 70s and now the question of what is Canada's largest, most important, and most international city has long since been decided and the gap continues to grow. This is quite unlike Sydney and Melbourne where both are growing and a stall in one for any reason could mean Sydney retakes the #1 spot..............it really is a situation where the #1 city in Australia goes back and forth which is quite unique.
Yes, it is just another stat and really doesn't amount to much technically but it certainly does psychologically.
When Toronto overtook Montreal in the mid-70s it was a huge blow to Montreal's self esteem as they had to accept the fact that they are now 2nd place and conversely was a big boost for Torontonians' insecurity. The old adage is true.........size matters.
Of course there is a big difference between Tor/Mon & Syd/Mel in that Toronto has been growing much faster than Montreal since the 70s and now the question of what is Canada's largest, most important, and most international city has long since been decided and the gap continues to grow. This is quite unlike Sydney and Melbourne where both are growing and a stall in one for any reason could mean Sydney retakes the #1 spot..............it really is a situation where the #1 city in Australia goes back and forth which is quite unique.
Sydney is a finance hub; this city will stay richer than Melbourne for decades. Melbourne will be endless middle class suburbia. If they want to win at urban sprawl let them.
Sydney is a finance hub; this city will stay richer than Melbourne for decades. Melbourne will be endless middle class suburbia. If they want to win at urban sprawl let them.
That Global Finance Index is hilarious. In 2018 they described Sydney as a "broad and deep global leader" and two years later it ranks just above Dublin.
BTW it says Melbourne has already surpassed Sydney, which would be a surprise to anyone who works in finance.
People in Melbourne definitely care lol they are obsessed with Sydney
So let them have it. Does San Francisco care that it's smaller than LA?
If you're going to measure your city based on how many uber drivers you can import on 3rd rate university courses to pump up your population then you will reap what you sow.
Why are you so mad? I don't think the average joe here wants to be bigger than Sydney in population. What good is that going to do for the city? It's a meaningless number.
Why are you so mad? I don't think the average joe here wants to be bigger than Sydney in population. What good is that going to do for the city? It's a meaningless number.
I'm not mad, I find it amusing more than anything. Like what an odd thing to compete over. We should be creating more cities not overstuffing the existing ones. So if Melbourne wants the title of most populous city in Australia they're welcome to it. If there's one thing those "most liveable city" things all seem to have in common it's that mega cities don't make the cut.
If there's one thing those "most liveable city" things all seem to have in common it's that mega cities don't make the cut.
If there's one thing that can we can count on, it's that Melbourne will lose its top liveability ranking if its population continues to climb and outstrip infrastructure capacity. A metro-commuter rail hybrid falsely named "Melbourne Metro" will not cut it and sprawl that is encroaching onto agricultural land will only hinder Melbourne's winning streak of the last 15 years. Furthermore, the unchecked construction that is going on in the city even during the pandemic is going to lead to a lot of empty apartment buildings. No, I'm sorry, if history and the ebb & flow nature of popularity is anything to go by, Melbourne could have quite a bit to lose.
If there's one thing that can we can count on, it's that Melbourne will lose its top liveability ranking if its population continues to climb and outstrip infrastructure capacity. A metro-commuter rail hybrid falsely named "Melbourne Metro" will not cut it and sprawl that is encroaching onto agricultural land will only hinder Melbourne's winning streak of the last 15 years. Furthermore, the unchecked construction that is going on in the city even during the pandemic is going to lead to a lot of empty apartment buildings. No, I'm sorry, if history and the ebb & flow nature of popularity is anything to go by, Melbourne could have quite a bit to lose.
How much of a loss are we talking? Melbourne did lose its ranking as the most liveable city in the world recently, but it’s still in the top 10 (not that I place much value on these rankings).
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