Bogan VS Yobbo VS Redneck (low income, homes, buy)
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All in all I think 'bogan' has been used quite negatively too, and it annoys me. Many 'bogans' are much better people than pretentious, 'sophisticated' people.
Reminds me of lyrics to a country song:
"... and a better class of 'loser' suits me fine..."
Thanks, we needed an Aussie to tell people what a North American category means.
(actually an American term, and I'm a Canadian, but have many American friends )
Again, to me a great example of a redneck is "Earl" on "My Name is Earl."
"Tim Taylor" on "Home Improvement" could be described a "redneck" too, on more looser terms of the definition.
"Redneck" doesn't make anyone more likely to be racist;
the only difference is a redneck who is racist already might be more likely to be openly racist.
In Canada, I know a guy about my age and of Indian ancestry who I would describe as "quite redneck"...
and he probably wouldn't mind being described that way.
I think theres quite a difference between rednecks in america and australia and canada and europe too.
each would have there own definition
Even among australians there will be disagreement about what a redneck is.
I agree with you about the racism part is not a redneck.
I consider a redneck someone who is in favour of wars,suppression ,enforcement , violence and killing so by that definition the armed forces has plenty of rednecks and some police and prison officers and criminals are also redneck in nature. It has little to do with racism and racists who are found everywhere and in every income and educational level.
To me a redneck is xenophobic, and exhibits boorish parochialism as well as often being overty prejudiced.
It is often more applicable to individuals from smaller towns that "don't like outsiders", than cityslickers.
Hence the old assertion that country people are friendlier than city people, is a big crock of s@#!
You need to be "born there" to be one of them, and who would want to be one of them anyway.
The terms yobbo and bogan are more self-explantory and stereotypical, and have been defined under other threads.
In NSW, the term "westie" is still commonly used for a bogan type individual.
When I left Oz in the 70's, there were lots of bodgies and widgies. Now, they're nowhere to be found
The Widgies and The Bodgies, now that's a blast from the past. They'd all be middle aged now and causing mayhem at the nearest 50's/60's rock'n'roll revial show.
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I thought 'redneck' was a real derogatory term in America as well as Australia.
To me it conjours mental pictures of a loud mouthed racist uneducated farmer in dungarees.
Fancy calling Tim Allen a redneck. - I never knew it didn't mean 'uneducated racist' in the US.
I figured I learned the meaning from too much American TV, now I don't know where I learnt it.
It can be a derogatory term, but sometimes it's meant more "tongue-in-cheek," making fun of their lack of sophistication.
Most people might be confused about hearing Tim Taylor (Home Improvement character ) as being described as a redneck, but listen to the lyrics of some American country music and you'll get a better idea of what southerners and some Americans consider redneck instead. Southerners invented the term, but it was used by other Americans to be slang for racist. Perhaps even Hollywood...Yet at the same time, you'll also see Hollywood use redneck in the original meaning, like in the Dukes of Hazzard, sheriff Rosco says "...it'll break their redneck hearts..." refering to the Duke boys, and they were never racist. Occaisionally sexist? Yes, but this show was filmed in the 1970's and early 1980's.
Probably around the same time as other Americans first heard the word "redneck",
Southerners-themselves might have been synonymous with "racist" to many Americans,
so there would have been no need to distinguish.
I have no problem with Aussies or Kiwis using it to mean something different however, as there are already plenty of words we use differently. But I thought it might be interesting to hear "all sides."
Last edited by ColdCanadian; 02-01-2010 at 09:45 AM..
It can be a derogatory term, but sometimes it's meant more "tongue-in-cheek," making fun of their lack of sophistication.
Most people might be confused about hearing Tim Taylor (Home Improvement character ) as being described as a redneck, but listen to the lyrics of some American country music and you'll get a better idea of what southerners and some Americans consider redneck instead. Southerners invented the term, but it was used by other Americans to be slang for racist. Perhaps even Hollywood...Yet at the same time, you'll also see Hollywood use redneck in the original meaning, like in the Dukes of Hazzard, sheriff Rosco says "...it'll break their redneck hearts..." refering to the Duke boys, and they were never racist. Occaisionally sexist? Yes, but this show was filmed in the 1970's and early 1980's.
Probably around the same time as other Americans first heard the word "redneck",
Southerners-themselves might have been synonymous with "racist" to many Americans,
so there would have been no need to distinguish.
I have no problem with Aussies or Kiwis using it to mean something different however, as there are already plenty of words we use differently. But I thought it might be interesting to hear "all sides."
Yes lets please seperate the definitions by country as it should be, also
by what your saying about the Us story of redneck, it sounds like the US southerners and northerners each had there own definition for redneck. We all know the northerners won the US civil war. so it sounds like the victorious northerners made a sought of parody of the southern definition of redneck and turned it into a word that condones opponents of multiracial multiculturalism which is todays US in many areas.
Yes lets please seperate the definitions by country as it should be, also
by what your saying about the Us story of redneck, it sounds like the US southerners and northerners each had there own definition for redneck. We all know the northerners won the US civil war. so it sounds like the victorious northerners made a sought of parody of the southern definition of redneck and turned it into a word that condones opponents of multiracial multiculturalism which is todays US in many areas.
No worries.
Perhaps at the time when P.C. notions were almost non-existant, most people didn't bother to correct assumptions of whether it was or wasn't "racist", either the "self-described rednecks" or the people throwing it around as a derogatory term... with this slang word out-lasting that era.
I don't know, as someone who lives in the North (Massachusetts), usually redneck meant these things first:
-very conservative political beliefs
-heavily religious (see: bible belt)
-uneducated
-poor
Racism is a part of it, but I'd say it's less than the political/religious aspects
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They'd all be middle aged now and causing mayhem at the nearest 50's/60's rock'n'roll revial show. 
