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Old 06-09-2009, 08:13 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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The one I'm most familiar with is a variant of an upper-class British accent.
This is the one I have trouble differenciating with Kiwi
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I have only ever meet one SA with that type of accent, most are the dutch/Boer accent. thats in my part of NZ anyway. I think part of the problem with the Kiwi accent is that we tend to asimulate with other countries accents. Thats why when Kiwis come home from the State for example they have thaa north Americian twang. So that could also confuss many people.
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:09 PM
 
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I have only ever meet one SA with that type of accent, most are the dutch/Boer accent. thats in my part of NZ anyway. I think part of the problem with the Kiwi accent is that we tend to asimulate with other countries accents. Thats why when Kiwis come home from the State for example they have thaa north Americian twang. So that could also confuss many people.
I don't think I've met any south africans that sounded english, although I do know some people from zimbabwe that sound english. Maybe I have met some south africans that sounded english and just didn't know they were south african

The south africans I know all have that dutch/boer accent, but of varying strengths depending whether english or afrikaans is their first language.
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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I don't think I've met any south africans that sounded english, although I do know some people from zimbabwe that sound english. Maybe I have met some south africans that sounded english and just didn't know they were south african

The south africans I know all have that dutch/boer accent, but of varying strengths depending whether english or afrikaans is their first language.
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I have only ever meet one SA with that type of accent, most are the dutch/Boer accent. thats in my part of NZ anyway. I think part of the problem with the Kiwi accent is that we tend to asimulate with other countries accents. Thats why when Kiwis come home from the State for example they have thaa north Americian twang. So that could also confuss many people.
Okay, listen to this add:
(and then tell me what it sounds like to you...)


YouTube - South Africa Nando's commercial Where's my Chips?



This is part of the upper-class British variant English accent I'm talking about.
This is what I still have a hard time differentiating between Kiwi and South African.

I have a better example to listen to on VHS tape,
but alas, tape is hard to upload.
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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YouTube - Steers Rib Burger - Broke Bakkie Mountain

Also check this one out.
The first guy talking definitely sounds Dutch South African.
But everyone else is talking with an excellent example of the English South African accent.
(especially the announcer towards the end of the commercial)

*When I listen carefully to the announcer, I heard words like "only" pronounced like "inn-ly,"
as in "...Introducing Steer's new Rib-Burger, for innly 26.95 (Ram?)..."
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:03 PM
 
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Okay, listen to this add:
(and then tell me what it sounds like to you...)

This is part of the upper-class British variant English accent I'm talking about.
This is what I still have a hard time differentiating between Kiwi and South African.

I have a better example to listen to on VHS tape,
but alas, tape is hard to upload.
Mmmmmm, I like Nando's

In real life, I would probably need to hear the blonde girl in the ad speak some longer sentences to be sure she was south african. I can hear it in her voice, but as I know that's what to expect, I'm specifically listening for it.

The voice over at the end however is a classic south african accent to my ears, no mistaking it. My guess would be english is her first language not afrikaans though. It doesn't have the gutteralness (is that a word?) that people who speak afrikaans as their first language seem to have.

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Also check this one out.
The first guy talking definitely sounds Dutch South African.
But everyone else is talking with an excellent example of the English South African accent.
(especially the announcer towards the end of the commercial)

*When I listen carefully to the announcer, I heard words like "only" pronounced like "inn-ly,"
as in "...Introducing Steer's new Rib-Burger, for innly 26.95 (Ram?)..."
Yep, that first guy definitely has a stronger dutch/boer/afrikaans type accent. But, to my ears the others are obviously still south africans too. Now that I'm listening to them carefully though I can hear why the softer south african accents would sound similar to a kiwi accent (compared with a canadian accent anyway) The treatment of the vowels in particular has more in common with the kiwi accent than I had really thought about before.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:40 AM
 
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I only read through the first page of comments, but I wanted to say that I find the Kiwi accent very sexy!! Love Australian accents too, and next would come British accent.
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Mmmmmm, I like Nando's

In real life, I would probably need to hear the blonde girl in the ad speak some longer sentences to be sure she was south african. I can hear it in her voice, but as I know that's what to expect, I'm specifically listening for it.

The voice over at the end however is a classic south african accent to my ears, no mistaking it. My guess would be english is her first language not afrikaans though. It doesn't have the gutteralness (is that a word?) that people who speak afrikaans as their first language seem to have.



Yep, that first guy definitely has a stronger dutch/boer/afrikaans type accent. But, to my ears the others are obviously still south africans too.

Now that I'm listening to them carefully though I can hear why the softer south african accents would sound similar to a kiwi accent (compared with a canadian accent anyway) The treatment of the vowels in particular has more in common with the kiwi accent than I had really thought about before.
Nando's is "Down Under" too?
(I've never heard of them)

I could also tell that English was most-likely the annoucer's first language,
though I'm probably not familiar enough with British-English accents to notice any dutch brogue;
(if that's the word) all British accents are slightly odd sounding to my ears.
(probably as all Canadian/American accents are to you)

I think the "gutterallness" you're describing is what I would consider "Scandinavian/German-sounding" vowels.
(pitch, tone etc.; not just pronunciation)

*Ah, so I'm not imagining things, comparing Kiwis to English South Africans.
(it's good to hear that I'm neither crazy nor "weak-minded" for making this connection. )
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:34 PM
 
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Nando's has several restaurants in the GTA
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:43 PM
 
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Nando's is "Down Under" too?
(I've never heard of them)
Yeah we've had them a few years now, I really like their food. They even sell sauces at the supermarket. I'm particularly partial to their coconut curry sauce

I just had a look at their website and see that they are in Canada too. Check it out, you may have one nearby and just haven't noticed them.

Welcome to Nando’s Canada. The official home of Nando’s famous Peri-Peri chicken.

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*Ah, so I'm not imagining things, comparing Kiwis to English South Africans.
(it's good to hear that I'm neither crazy nor "weak-minded" for making this connection. )
Nope, not crazy - either that, or you have just talked me into imagining things too
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Old 06-10-2009, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Perth, Western Australia
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^^

Well I'll be a possum's uncle...
We have a "Nando's" within 15 km of my house.
(I still have never heard of them though )
I wonder if they're new to Canada?

If you're from NZ, there must be something there...
(or I'm more persuasive than I was aware of?... )
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