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Old 08-07-2020, 10:37 AM
 
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Notice I said "passion". Harvick has a son who he is setting the example for. He still trains hard to stay in shape. Most males get lazy or lethargic after 35. It comes down to how bad do you want it and does your spouse give you full support. To be the best in anything you have to stay focused on one thing. Racing requires it. You can`t be all over the place involved in other venues, sports or auditioning for a TV spot. All things considered I think the 42 car is doing a good job.
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Old 08-07-2020, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Not sure if I agree with this. 7 time champ Jimmy Johnson, 44, is the most experienced by far on the NASCAR circuit, but hasn't smelled victory lane in a couple years now (0-93 wins). He's arguably in the best equipment out there.

Matt Kenseth, a former champ, has no wins this year. He's situation though is unique, having come back after after retirement to fill in. The 42 had better average finishes with a younger driver, before Matt took over.

Both Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart faded at the end of their careers.

The hot drivers are the early "middle aged" drivers. Kyle Busch, Hamlin, Keselowski, etc... all who are in mid to upper 30's. These guys offer the most competitive racing as of late.

The standout out is Kevin Harvick, the same age as Jimmy Johnson. Harvick seems to be getting better with age (44).
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This is the common trajectory.



I mean, you will find VERY few drivers who are better at the end of their careers. 45-ish is generally the drop-off point, though some it hits earlier than that.


Harry Gant being the big exception. Even Mark Martin didn't do very well after hitting 45. Take out his 5 wins in 2009 and he was quite average.
NASCAR is no different than any other sport. Father Time is undefeated and for every Kevin Harvick who can still put up a good race, you have a Terry Labonte, Jeff Gordon, and Bobby Labonte among others who lost their magic toward the end of their driving careers.
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Old 08-16-2020, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Amelia Island
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I was a little underwhelmed today with the coverage. I think after the first stage the camera coverage got better. Those ground or should I say moving grass cams just didn’t cut it for me. Great win for Elliot. Some pretty huge separations between the racers at times.

Damn I miss the racing at Watkins Glenn!
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Old 08-17-2020, 10:19 AM
 
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I was a little underwhelmed today with the coverage. I think after the first stage the camera coverage got better. Those ground or should I say moving grass cams just didn’t cut it for me. Great win for Elliot. Some pretty huge separations between the racers at times.

Damn I miss the racing at Watkins Glenn!

Hamlin gave him all he could want, but came up a little short.

You never know what's going to happen, but it's awful hard to bet against Hamlin or Harvick for the championship.
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Old 08-17-2020, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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I was a little underwhelmed today with the coverage. I think after the first stage the camera coverage got better. Those ground or should I say moving grass cams just didn’t cut it for me. Great win for Elliot. Some pretty huge separations between the racers at times.

Damn I miss the racing at Watkins Glenn!
The race was just as underwhelming as the coverage if we're being honest. I watched for the novelty of it, and if it becomes a yearly thing, I won't be watching. It was boring as hell.
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Old 08-18-2020, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Amelia Island
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The race was just as underwhelming as the coverage if we're being honest. I watched for the novelty of it, and if it becomes a yearly thing, I won't be watching. It was boring as hell.
Thanks for sharing. I tried to give the race and tv coverage a chance but I couldn’t really get into it. I have been to the Rolex 24 so my expectations were high. They seemed to have more coverage of the leaders who were way ahead and left out the battles. Post race coverage was non-existent.

Quite a few NASCAR blog writers loved the course and race but trashed the TV coverage.
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Old 08-20-2020, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Alabama
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Another blow to NASCAR, time to let other tire manufacturers in. This sport has become too damn political to ever watch again.
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Old 08-20-2020, 02:25 PM
 
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Another blow to NASCAR, time to let other tire manufacturers in. This sport has become too damn political to ever watch again.

Yeah, no.


You obviously don't remember the tire wars of the late 80's and early 90's.



There is one tire manufacturer for a reason. Safety. And Safety 'Trumps' everything else.



Someone did a very good analysis of this on a Youtube video a few years back..




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIwr2uCNXIc




Now, they want to open it up to allow another manufacturer to be the exclusive supplier? No problem. But tire wars have never ended well for competitor safety.
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Old 08-21-2020, 12:03 AM
 
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Yeah, no.


You obviously don't remember the tire wars of the late 80's and early 90's.



There is one tire manufacturer for a reason. Safety. And Safety 'Trumps' everything else.



Someone did a very good analysis of this on a Youtube video a few years back..




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIwr2uCNXIc




Now, they want to open it up to allow another manufacturer to be the exclusive supplier? No problem. But tire wars have never ended well for competitor safety.

dont forget that formula one, and other sanctioning bodies have tire manufacturer competitions, and they do just fine. perhaps because they set up a standard spec tire that every manufacturer has to follow.
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Old 08-21-2020, 09:55 AM
 
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dont forget that formula one, and other sanctioning bodies have tire manufacturer competitions, and they do just fine. perhaps because they set up a standard spec tire that every manufacturer has to follow.

Not really sure NASCAR could pull that off. So many different types of tracks that run such different speeds.
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