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I had heard some mention about the Yaris as having high mpg, but when I went to the Toyota site, it's listed only at 29/36.
I dont get that figure as i'm getting between 40 and 45mpg with my 08 Yaris sedan and so is every one else on the YarisWorld forum A few of us have actually got above 50mpg with the Yaris.
The way you defend toyota, do you work for them or just that blinded by them?
Your obvious hatred of all things Toyota has blinded your common senses. Bet you have never even owned one before and are probably a big Ford or Chevy guy.
Your obvious hatred of all things Toyota has blinded your common senses. Bet you have never even owned one before and are probably a big Ford or Chevy guy.
Answer my question first, then I'll answer yours. do you work for toyota, or are you just that blinded by them?
That is the delimma;without previous tax credit the prius isn't going to pay for the difference in cost mileage wise. But you can get a common civic or carolla and cone=me out better over all test have shown.If your a environmentalist then get what you want by all means. Its your choice not ours.
There is also the Ford Fiesta that gets 40mpg highway 29 city and I think is more then $10k less then the Pruis for the base model, not sure about the Honda and also not sure what you get with the Fiesta base model compared to the Prius. However, it'll probably take 150,000 miles of driving the Prius before you make up for the price difference from the money you save from better gas milage.
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Originally Posted by NJGOAT
I spelled out a comparison in another thread that showed a Corolla versus a Prius and it proved out that the Prius does not begin to save money until gas is pushing $6.50+ per gallon. The simply logic is that the hybrid options cost more than comparable "fuel efficient" cars. That difference requires a lot of gas to be made up. Remember, a Prius is a $22k car in base trim.
I've seen a lot of these kinds of comparisons, and while the math is impressive, it also doesn't mean a whole lot since it's an "apples and oranges" comparison. The comparison is valid only when you look at the hybrid version and gas version of the same vehicle - Honda Civic, Ford Escape, Cadillac Escalade, etc.
There is no gas version of the Prius, and therefore no comparison to be made. The Corolla is closer than the Fiesta, but neither one is a gas version of the Prius. To have a true comparison, the specs and features (save the hybrid elements) on each vehicle would have to be the same.
However, if it's an "apples and oranges" comparison that you're looking for - and a real world example, not something made up - in 2006 we traded in an '04 Honda CR-V for an '06 Prius. Very different vehicles. But with the Prius, we got a vehicle:
with an "out the door" cost in 2006 that was lower than the CR-V cost in 2004;
that consequently had lower payments;
that cost less to insure;
that got more than twice the gas mileage (and the CR-V miles per gallon weren't bad);
and - most importantly to us - got us into the HOV lanes in N. Virginia.
The hybrid we bought - a Prius - is clearly the least expensive of the two vehicles, both in initial cost and monthly expenses.
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Originally Posted by GTOlover
yes you do you pay around $7K-$10K more over a regular gas version of the same car.
No argument here - a hybrid version of a vehicle costs more than the gas version of the same vehicle ... just as automatic costs more than manual, convertible costs more than hardtop, etc., etc.
I've seen a lot of these kinds of comparisons, and while the math is impressive, it also doesn't mean a whole lot since it's an "apples and oranges" comparison. The comparison is valid only when you look at the hybrid version and gas version of the same vehicle - Honda Civic, Ford Escape, Cadillac Escalade, etc.
There is no gas version of the Prius, and therefore no comparison to be made. The Corolla is closer than the Fiesta, but neither one is a gas version of the Prius. To have a true comparison, the specs and features (save the hybrid elements) on each vehicle would have to be the same.
However, if it's an "apples and oranges" comparison that you're looking for - and a real world example, not something made up - in 2006 we traded in an '04 Honda CR-V for an '06 Prius. Very different vehicles. But with the Prius, we got a vehicle:
with an "out the door" cost in 2006 that was lower than the CR-V cost in 2004;
that consequently had lower payments;
that cost less to insure;
that got more than twice the gas mileage (and the CR-V miles per gallon weren't bad);
and - most importantly to us - got us into the HOV lanes in N. Virginia.
The hybrid we bought - a Prius - is clearly the least expensive of the two vehicles, both in initial cost and monthly expenses.
No argument here - a hybrid version of a vehicle costs more than the gas version of the same vehicle ... just as automatic costs more than manual, convertible costs more than hardtop, etc., etc.
The comparison is MPG to cost, pretty simple. The Prius is most certainly a gas car amongst also having an electric motor that is recharged via the gas motor and even if it was not, comparing MPG is still "apples to apples". MPG between any car directly compares. I don't understand what your gripe is.
The comparison is how far each vehicle goes per gallon with the non-hybrid car getting a $$$ handy cap for fuel based on the extra cost of the Prius. This is not the cost difference between a lollipop and a sucker, a hamburger or a steak, leather seats or cloth. This was taking an expensive more fuel economical commuter type car that people would buy because of fuel econmy and comparing it to a less fuel economical car that also cost less and showing that the extra cost of the first car cost more then extra fuel savings over the second car.
One car cost $14000. The other Cost $23000. The $23000 car gets far better gas milage, but durring it's life span....hell, exceeding it's life span, it never makes up for the price difference over the first car in fuel savings. That is all the comparison was. I am sorry I cannot make it any more simple for you.
No argument here - a hybrid version of a vehicle costs more than the gas version of the same vehicle ... just as automatic costs more than manual, convertible costs more than hardtop, etc., etc.
Yes, but usually you pay more to get more. That is not the case with the Prius.
Prius or Insight? Hmmm tough decision! Would you rather gouge your eyes out with a soup spoon or experience blunt force castration?
That's a good one! And either car mentioned is like that to your dignity.
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A few of us have actually got above 50mpg with the Yaris.
