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Old 07-20-2010, 02:33 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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If you are buying a used car from the early 2000's you really want to look at this link!! This isn't a controlled crash test, this is real world results... and if you drive an early 2000s Chevy Blazer, Kia, or compact American car/ *** compact sports car the news isn't good.

Chevrolet Blazer worst in driver-death study - MSN Money

The rates are per 1 million vehicles registered in the USA for the years 2000 to 2004

Worst
1. Chevy Blazer - 232
2. Acura RSX - 202
3. Kia Spectra - 191
4. Pontiac Sunfire - 179
5. Kia Rio - 175
6. Chevy Cavalier - 171
7. Mitsubishi Eclipse - 169
9. Pontiac Grand Am - 160
10. Ford Ranger - 150
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Old 07-20-2010, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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They're based on number of vehicles. Not all makes an models are driven the same number of miles, and that's what would reflect a true picture of their safety.
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Old 07-20-2010, 05:53 PM
 
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That would be very deceiving. Most fatalites involve fault. Even seat belts and air bags usage can make a big difference.Often the worse involve DUI or under influence of drugs because no action is take to avoid the accident. Often quite the opposite in that it actaully causes a unusal accident that otherwise would not have happened.Crash testing is abpout the most relaible stats for that reason.
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Old 07-20-2010, 06:27 PM
 
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Looking at this data, I see a bunch of cheap vehicles that are typically driven by teenagers. I would guess most of these deaths are the result of inexperienced and reckless new drivers rather than a general vehicle safety issue.
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Old 07-20-2010, 07:34 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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Two-door, two-wheel-drive Chevrolet Blazer sport-utility vehicles built from 2001 to 2004 had the highest rate -- 232 driver deaths per million registered-vehicle years -- during the four-year span, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety says.

By contrast, the Chevrolet Astro minivan had the lowest rate with only seven deaths per million registered-vehicle years. It was followed by Nissan's Infiniti G35, the BMW 7 Series and the Toyota 4Runner, according to the institute, a nonprofit that's funded by insurance companies.

Uhh... haven't several people on this forum posted as to how unsafe Astro's were? This is a very confusing study.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Austintown, OH
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Looking at this data, I see a bunch of cheap vehicles that are typically driven by teenagers. I would guess most of these deaths are the result of inexperienced and reckless new drivers rather than a general vehicle safety issue.
Exactly.. Or driven by people with very limited driving experience.. especially the Kia's and Sunfire/Cavalier.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Austintown, OH
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If you are buying a used car from the early 2000's you really want to look at this link!! This isn't a controlled crash test, this is real world results... and if you drive an early 2000s Chevy Blazer, Kia, or compact American car/ *** compact sports car the news isn't good.

Chevrolet Blazer worst in driver-death study - MSN Money

The rates are per 1 million vehicles registered in the USA for the years 2000 to 2004

Worst
1. Chevy Blazer - 232
2. Acura RSX - 202
3. Kia Spectra - 191
4. Pontiac Sunfire - 179
5. Kia Rio - 175
6. Chevy Cavalier - 171
7. Mitsubishi Eclipse - 169
9. Pontiac Grand Am - 160
10. Ford Ranger - 150
Also, especially the RSX, but also the Eclipse.. those are cars that are popular to soup up and "race"... So I could see where people that have these are more inclined to drive unsafely. I know insurance rates, at least here in Texas, are really high for an RSX
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:03 PM
 
Location: U.S.A.
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Yes, I'm pretty certain this study takes advantage of some vehicle demographics!
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Old 07-20-2010, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Vermont / NEK
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It's interesting that a two door Golf had a rate of 97 and the four door came in at 45. Is the structural integrity of the two that much different? I wouldn't think so. As mentioned above - driver behavior has quite a bit to do with fatalities. If I had a dollar for every chick in a Cavalier that's tailgated me in the past ten years, I could take you all out for lunch, maybe even a few drinks.
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Yes, I'm pretty certain this study takes advantage of some vehicle demographics!
No it doesn't. Its the number of deaths divided by the number of registered vehicles. Period.

Which is terrible statistical science, and even worse journalism to report it as if it meant something else.
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