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Old 12-21-2010, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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40% of the US corn crop is going to ethanol. We are burning our food. I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that they grow corn in Iowa and that is the first stop in the presidential primaries....
No has ever noticed Iowa. Especialy voters.
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Old 12-22-2010, 07:50 AM
 
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But E85 is interesting. Oddly enough one poster here claimed to have run it in a stock 1990's VW Golf, and while his MPG was down some the lower price per gallon actually gave him a cost reduction - well that's what he posted anyway. I wasn't there.
I'd find it really odd that a stock 90's VW Golf could run E85. Not that the engine couldn't use it, but that the E85 would literally eat his fuel system.
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Old 12-22-2010, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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I'd find it really odd that a stock 90's VW Golf could run E85. Not that the engine couldn't use it, but that the E85 would literally eat his fuel system.
I commented to that effect. I don't see this guy posting on here much anymore, maybe he's stuck in his garage replacing everything between his gas tank and his injectors?

He claimed it ran fine and didn't set a CEL. Given the difference in mixture needed for E85, I would have thought the ECU would have run out of trim and set the flag. Assuming the stock injectors would flow enough fuel to meet stoichemetric anyway, which I would doubt.
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Unfortunately, I live in Los Angeles, and in spite of the city having received eight inches of rain since last Thursday, most of it will merely run off into the sea instead of into a network of reservoirs which should have been built three decades ago across the entire length of the state.
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Old 12-23-2010, 02:46 AM
 
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In my life one time i was low on gas at night and filled up at my station which is 100% gasoline.But really I remember that.The problem started when i put 10% ethanol blend in my tank at that time. i well never put ethanol again in my car. Really ethanol was definitely not intended for use in any engines.
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Old 12-23-2010, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Unfortunately, I live in Los Angeles, and in spite of the city having received eight inches of rain since last Thursday, most of it will merely run off into the sea instead of into a network of reservoirs which should have been built three decades ago across the entire length of the state.
. . . and therefore, ethanol sucks . . .
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Old 12-23-2010, 06:01 AM
 
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Ethanol sucks and LA should have built water retention. Both statements are true. Prove that there is not a cause and effect relationship. Then you will know the secret of anthropomorphic global warming, er, I mean, climate change.
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Old 12-23-2010, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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I'm I a big fan of ethanol, NO
more energy goes in to the production than is in a gal of the stuff. (from the field to the ethanol plant to distribution)

I want a choice, I don't want mandates stating that all of the gas we buy has to have a % of it.

That being said,
It is good for the farmer.
We pay the farmer to let thousands of acres to lay fallow. Now he is encouraged to grow corn on those acres instead.

I have to chuckle when I read things like
Omg we're burning FOOD.

A lot of folks use corn stoves like me to heat there homes.
I burn around 5,000lbs 6,000lbs in an average winter.
It's greener and cheaper than burning fuel oil.
Plus I get it for free from a friend who farms.

Did you know that they make all sorts of things out of corn like drinking cups, bags, wrappers, plates, etc etc?
They even make whiskey out of it.
They don't use sweet corn to make ethanol they use feed or field corn and you wouldn't want to eat a cob of that stuff anyway.

Everything has gone up in price and corn has thousands of uses.
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Old 12-27-2010, 06:50 AM
 
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How many of you had cars that were designed for ethanol based gasoline?
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Old 12-28-2010, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Visitation between Wal-Mart & Home Depot
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This is not conclusive proof of anything. The elevation of Geneva is 494 feet while the elevation of Albany is 300 feet. It is no shocker that a car gets better gas mileage going downhill.
It's easy for people to overlook grade in their fuel economy, but I've had the same experience with two tanks of fuel on a completely uphill drive. Going from Houston, TX (59') to Fairfield, TX (451') on a tank of 10% ethanol consistently yields averages in the 14-16 mpg range for a 1999 Chevy Tahoe. Filling the tank in Fairfield with 100% gasoline in a regular grade would then yield 18-20 mpg (calculated 22 mpg once with an average speed of 52 mph) from Fairfield (451') to Weatherford (1011').
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