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Old 10-29-2010, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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How can you pull off the road and take the call if there's a device blocking the call from ever getting through??? Oh wait -- design the device to block only the outgoing voice. And only for a distance of two feet. No problem, I'm sure.
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A fairly bright high school nerd could make one in a weekend with spare parts found around a computer shop. With exactly those limitations. The device would still ring and display the incoming call ID---you just couldn't use it for voice if sitting in the cone of the jamming signal within two feet. Every transmitting device has an effective range, and you can make it 2 inches if you want, and can be directionalized.

Do you really think such a thing lies beyond the range of electronic possibility in 2010, when they can make a unicycle that won't tip over?
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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A fairly bright high school nerd could make one in a weekend with spare parts found around a computer shop. With exactly those limitations.
Really? How? With what parts? How does it block only the outgoing voice signal? How can it even pick out only the outgoing voice signal from a digital data stream? I'd love to hear this.
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Really? How? With what parts? How does it block only the outgoing voice signal? How can it even pick out only the outgoing voice signal from a digital data stream? I'd love to hear this.
Ask a fairly bright high school nerd to invent it for you.
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Old 10-30-2010, 03:26 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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That's what is needed, a device connected to the speedometer so that when you go over 0 MPH the cell phone goes dead. This way young people who don't know any better can concentrate on their driving instead of trying to learn how to type and drive at the same time. Also holds true for the moms who just can't put the frigging phone down.

A more feasable solution:
Since most phones now have GPS, phone/text/email mode should become disabled (buttons stop working) above a certain speed. There are already some phones on the market that wont unlock while a car is in motion snd there is also a special handfree mount on the market for it to function (enables bluetooth upon be placed into holder).
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:34 AM
 
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...They outlawed the suicide knob why can't they outlaw the suicide phone?

Very simple....the suicide knob makers didn't have millions of dollars to buy off the lawmakers!
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Old 10-30-2010, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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Very simple....the suicide knob makers didn't have millions of dollars to buy off the lawmakers!
Actually, the suicide knobs are back and truckers are allowed to use them.
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Old 10-30-2010, 09:01 AM
 
Location: The Big D
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How can you pull off the road and take the call if there's a device blocking the call from ever getting through??? Oh wait -- design the device to block only the outgoing voice. And only for a distance of two feet. No problem, I'm sure.

Any more deus ex machina-type contrivances we can throw into this thought experiment while we're at it? I suggest a camera linked to a mechanical hand mounted somewhere at the top of the center stack that smacks the phone out of the driver's hand if they try to use it while the car is moving.
I know. The ones that come up with this stuff really are not the brightest bulbs as they fail to realize the implications that it would cause and create.

We need to do something about all of the OTHER distractions first before trying to go after jamming cell phone signals.



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Ask a fairly bright high school nerd to invent it for you.
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So in other words, you're talking out your ass. Thanks for clarifying.
LOL!

So, I asked a high school nerd (I am the proud mother of one ). I actually asked several of them as my daughter has a host of friends that qualify as "high school nerd" (look up TAMS at UNT, she has friends there and if that does not qualify as the nerdiest of the nerds..... LOL). They all laughed and thought it was the dumbest idea and they had already heard of the idea. Then they rattled off a gazillion reasons why it would not work and such.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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How can you pull off the road and take the call if there's a device blocking the call from ever getting through??? Oh wait -- design the device to block only the outgoing voice. And only for a distance of two feet. No problem, I'm sure.

Any more deus ex machina-type contrivances we can throw into this thought experiment while we're at it? I suggest a camera linked to a mechanical hand mounted somewhere at the top of the center stack that smacks the phone out of the driver's hand if they try to use it while the car is moving.
Maybe the best thing to have done is that the insurance company is allowed to go in, check their phone records to see if they were on the cell phone while driving. That way the person who caused the accident while on the phone eats the whole bill. And their insurance would be allowed to put them on a higher premium, or cut them off completely. If they are student and that happens, then mommy and daddy get the to eat the whole bill from all parties involved if their kids caused the accident while on the cell phone.

There are a few cities here in Ohio, if your seen on the phone or texting while driving inside their city limits, you get a nice fat ticket. And I applaud them completely for their stand on this problem.

If your lives are that important that you need to be on the phone with your friends and family that much. Then go home and sit by the phone and stay there and not out on the roads. Other innocent lives are at risk out there on the roads because of your social phone life.
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Old 10-30-2010, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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That's what is needed, a device connected to the speedometer so that when you go over 0 MPH the cell phone goes dead. This way young people who don't know any better can concentrate on their driving instead of trying to learn how to type and drive at the same time. Also holds true for the moms who just can't put the frigging phone down.

They outlawed the suicide knob why can't they outlaw the suicide phone?
It is illegal to purchase an active cellular jammer, regardless of what you can google.

If you buy one, and customers report problems, your signal can be tracked and you could have to pay a hefty FCC fine.

Cellular companies lease that spectrum for extraordinary amounts of money from the federal government. You can't simply jam that signal and expect that to be legal.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Where there is too much snow!
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It is illegal to purchase an active cellular jammer, regardless of what you can google.

If you buy one, and customers report problems, your signal can be tracked and you could have to pay a hefty FCC fine.

Cellular companies lease that spectrum for extraordinary amounts of money from the federal government. You can't simply jam that signal and expect that to be legal.
I find it a little hard to believe that they would actually run right out to track down a single rogue device such as that. Beside it would to be putting a really strong signal for them to be able to track it and triangulate such a device, especially if they're traveling down a highway and using it intermittently. Not to forget that they would have to know almost exactly what frequency they are transmitting on.
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