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Old 04-29-2016, 11:07 AM
 
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About the size of the old Chevy Astro, but a couple feet longer, maybe a bit wider. Conventional, part-time 4WD with a locking differential. Good ground clearance. Cargo style: driver seat and front passenger seat and the rear ALL for cargo. 6cyl engine with choice of manual or automatic transmissions. A full box frame and suspension up for a payload of more than 1500 lbs. Easy to customize inside for lots of uses.

Sorry, the new mini-minivans are too small, underpowered, and lack the other features, although I like that they are being made, for those who want them. But there is no midsize van that isn't a passenger bus.

I don't understand why there is NO midsize cargo van made, let alone with the other features listed above.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Raleigh-Durham NC
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Mercedes-Benz Metris $28,950

Metris Cargo Van Features | Mercedes-Benz Vans

Ford Transit $30,960

2016 Ford Transit Full-Size commercial Van/Wagon | Ford.com

Nissan NV $26,740

Build Your 2016 Nissan Commercial Van | Custom Vans & Accessories

that's 3 that meet your specs....did I forget any?
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:51 AM
 
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None of those are 4WD
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Old 04-29-2016, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Raleigh-Durham NC
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None of those are 4WD
looks like the ford is available in Awd/4wd in Europe with the Diesel engine, not sure if/when it will be available here

Ford Transit gets 4WD

in the meantime there is a popular conversion:

Quigley 4x4 Ford Transit Models

the Benz Metris is not yet available in 4matic, buy the Sprinter is:

2015 Mercedes-Benz Sprinter 4x4 First Drive – Review – Car and Driver

Quigley also makes a conversion for the Nissan NV

http://www.tflcar.com/2013/03/quigle...ay-hallelujah/
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:46 PM
 
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Sounds like you are setting up a "covert camper."
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:12 PM
 
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looks like the ford is available in Awd/4wd in Europe with the Diesel engine, not sure if/when it will be available here

Ford Transit gets 4WD

in the meantime there is a popular conversion:

Quigley 4x4 Ford Transit Models

the Benz Metris is not yet available in 4matic, buy the Sprinter is:

2015 Mercedes-Benz Sprinter 4x4 First Drive – Review – Car and Driver

Quigley also makes a conversion for the Nissan NV

Quigley makes a Nissan NV 4X4 van, let us say hallelujah – The Fast Lane Car
I'm not sure the AWD Transit ever happened in Europe. Also not sure if I'd consider a conversion (Quigley does conversions for all the major vans) as 'comes with'.

I didn't realize the Sprinter came in 4x4. Would definitely consider one for van living. Diesel + 4x4. Dang those things are hot.
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Old 04-29-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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Yeah, many older minivans used to be really much more like a cargo-van, as opposed to a
car with wagon-like features. Like the Aerostar I used to own, what a great vehicle that could be used for a lot of things.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:03 PM
 
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Sounds like you are setting up a "covert camper."
No, just an all-round vehicle that I can also camp in. The usual meaning of camping, not bum camping.

I carry bikes, kayaks, tow a trailer, yard stuff...truck duties. But it would be nice to add a midsize van option to the extremely short list of suitable vehicles. I like the midsize trucks but the beds are pretty short even with the "longbed".
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:08 PM
 
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I should have listed that a manual transmission would be my choice. This and the parttime 4WD (with 4-Low range)--not AWD or pseudo-AWD--pretty much rule out anything that is now available. And I did say midsize, not fullsize. So no Transits, NVs, or their little siblings. The big ones are too big and the little ones are too little.

I am not holding my breath on this.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:10 PM
 
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Yeah, many older minivans used to be really much more like a cargo-van, as opposed to a
car with wagon-like features. Like the Aerostar I used to own, what a great vehicle that could be used for a lot of things.
I once rented the long version of an Aerostar. Didn't much like the vehicle overall but the size was very useful.
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