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Old 11-20-2011, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by us66 View Post
And then used car salesmen wonder why nobody trusts them. I've walked away from a deal because the salesman wanted to give me an 11% interest rate...I accused him of usury right in front of his other customer. I ended up buying a new car at 5%. I walked away from a new Mazda ten years ago because the dealer added stuff I didn't care about such as paint protection and VIN etching and would not deliver a car without it. The dealership was out of business probably a year later.

Buying a car=caveat emptor, and screw the guy who's out to *********.
The family business has been around since 1942...

Four Generations of customers.

Sales staff... including the sales manager often are not in one place very long... kind of a revolving door.

At least consumers have more avenues to be informed than every before...

The only exception is the number of new car dealers continues to decline and it make car shopping more of an effort.

My brother's wife had her heart set on a new Honda Odyssey... Here in the SF Bay Area, Dealers were getting $2500 over sticker and loading up with dealer added extras to boost the bottom line... it was take it or leave it... and they were selling.

My brother called a Dealer in the Central Valley and explained his family was in the Business and what he wanted... got the exact car his wife wanted for $2500 under sticker with no dealer extras...

The Central Valley Dealer said he was afraid he was going to get stuck with it because he had no market for it...
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:11 PM
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To make matters worse if you go through cars.com and look for cheap used cars many cars come show up on the list with very reasonable costs but once you click on the actual car the small print says that the price advertised says something like this, "assumes $1995 downpayment or trade."

So in other words the $12,000 Hynadai Sonata that I thought was such a great deal that came up to the top of list on cars.com as having the lowest miles, latest model, and lowest price actually costs as much as $3900 more than $12,000.00. I have to add a $1995 down payment, taxes, tax, and potentially up to $1000 in inspection and processing fees. CRAZY!
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:25 PM
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One of the first lessons my dad taught me about buying a car is "If your not willing to walk way there is a very good chance your going to get screwed". I give the salesman my cell phone number and my offer. That's all he needs to make a decision. I have walked away from many deals because the salesman can't or won't tell me the asking price.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:13 PM
Location: Vermont
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There are a lot of cars, and a lot of places to buy cars. Who needs these guys?
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:16 PM
Location: Vermont
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Originally Posted by 415_s2k View Post
if we took a car in and it ended up needing $2500 in repairs, $500. If we took it in and it just needed a wash and polish? $500. That fee amortized the cost across the dealership, so that way, that car we put $2500 into didn't end up costing $8000 instead of $5500.
If I'm the buyer, what do I care how much repairs cost you?

You're selling a car, if I like the car and the price, I buy it. You're not doing me any kind of favor by marking it up less than what you put into it. You're never going to sell the car for less than it's worth, and if i can avoid it I won't pay more than it's worth.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:38 AM
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I get a bit irritated at all the add on costs so when i buy a car i just ask for the Out the Door price and let them know which ever dealership gives me the lowest price gets my business,although lately i'm discovering that bang for the buck used cars from private owners is the way to go,let some one else eat that initial depreciation, and work out any initial mechanical gremlins.
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