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The headline is kind of misleading though, CR rates the Kia Optima 6th place ahead of the 7th place Accord. I have been impressed with Hyundai/Kia in the last decade and more recently with the styling. I plan to get the CR #1 rated Nissan Altima which I preferred before they rated it first place in the 4-cylinder sedan category. I'm a former owner of a 2003 Accord too.
I do like the Sonata/Optima and had considered either but went with the Suby Legacy with the AWD and still getting 32MPG. Living in NE is much easier with AWD for me. Japans unfortunes plays a big part.
If you read the report seems like they have more complaints about Honda not changing much in Accord and not offering a lot of options. Seems like Honda's philosophy is not to fix something that is not broken. At the end of the day Hyundai and Kia have done a great job in improving reliabilty and increasing market share, but I also don't think Honda/Toyota are going away anytime soon.
In terms of quality & luxury, Hyundai and Kia have already passed Honda, Toyota, and Nissan by I think. They are now closing in on Inifiniti, Acura, and Lexus.
Not so sure they've passed Honda and Toyota in terms of quality and luxury but they've certainly come very close to matching them at a lower price point. Lack of quality used to be the big knock against Korean cars. Every year that goes by they continue to narrow the gap.
The Korean car companies don't have much product that competes directly with the luxury car brands. So it's way too early to say they've won there too.
In terms of quality & luxury, Hyundai and Kia have already passed Honda, Toyota, and Nissan by I think. They are now closing in on Inifiniti, Acura, and Lexus.
I agree with this since I drove all midsize cars not so long ago to purchase. As much as I wanted the Honda and Nissan the quality just wasn't there. I was impressed with the korean midsize cars but went with Subaru in the end.
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Not so sure they've passed Honda and Toyota in terms of quality and luxury but they've certainly come very close to matching them at a lower price point. Lack of quality used to be the big knock against Korean cars. Every year that goes by they continue to narrow the gap.
The Korean car companies don't have much product that competes directly with the luxury car brands. So it's way too early to say they've won there too.
Not so sure about that, the Genesis Lineup is closing in and they now have the Equus which is competing with the large luxury carmakers for less money but in the end it's still a Hyundai to folks.
Yes, but the Genesis and Equus are the only two Korean luxury cars in production that I'm aware of in the States. That's two cars in a market segment comprised of dozens of competitors.
Just lease a 2012 KIA Optima SX and the 18" tires are loud,the dealer said they are going to replace the tires.
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