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This wishful thinking about about Honda's poor reliability is simply a joke. Nothing bears it out. Styling? Well that is something that is purely your opinion. We all have those. Even with the shortages of cars to sell in the Summer, Honda still has Accord, Civic, and CR-V as top 20 sellers and they aren't at the bottom.
Our family has purchased 5 new Hondas since 2004. 04 Civic LX Coupe, 07 Accord SE, 06 Civic Coupe, and my wife and youngest daughter now each have a 2010 Accord SE. many miles later (lots of kid miles too) and we have had virtually zero issues with any of them. I guess that's poor quality. 5 different vehicles over a 6 year period is a pretty good sample.
Our Miata and GMC truck have been very reliable as well.
My neighbors Nissan and Toyota offerings have not been nearly as trouble free. In the same time period I have been through three transmissions in two different Ford company vehicles... but I don't bash Ford as being junk.
It simply reeks of hate (or envy) to post such unsubstantiated crap about anybody... much less Honda.
I can only speak for Hondas and well, they are behind most cars of today. I wouldn't call them unreliable but they seem to be a bit...meh compared to most cars competing in today's market.
I bought a new car a month ago. My 2003 Elantra had an issue that was too expensive to repair at 101000 miles. Before I started shopiing, if you would have asked me what I was going to buy next, I would have named a few options from Toyota and Honda. With the outliers of Subaru and Nissan. I ended up getting a Ford Focus. In the end it felt more polished than the competition and offered a lot of high-end features. Honda and Toyota haven't quite figured out the new compact buyers like me. We want a loaded small car. Larger cars need not apply. (for the record I am 33. My friends, even the ones who have purchased new cars recently, haven't moved up to a mid-size, even though they have plenty of income to afford it.)
I have a Focus rental and I am fairly impressed overall with the interior and fit and finish. It is the four door hatchback model. The LED interior illumination is certainly a nice touch in the compact segment.
That's good news for tow truck drivers, mechanics, and our enemies in the middle east that rely on guzzlers to keep them rich.
I looked at the report, the biggest increase in auto sales was mid-sized SUV's, Larger SUV's and trucker were up as well. People are getting used to paying $3 a gallon for gas, America's love affair with BIG vehicles isn't over quite yet. It will take another oil price spike before they once again see the error of there ways.
The thing that pisses me off is they are the first one's to whine about higher oil prices, complaining they can't afford to put gas in there vehicles to get to work. What do you think is going to happen when you have a auto that only get 18 MPH at best?
I looked at the report, the biggest increase in auto sales was mid-sized SUV's, Larger SUV's and trucker were up as well. People are getting used to paying $3 a gallon for gas, America's love affair with BIG vehicles isn't over quite yet. It will take another oil price spike before they once again see the error of there ways.
The thing that pisses me off is they are the first one's to whine about higher oil prices, complaining they can't afford to put gas in there vehicles to get to work. What do you think is going to happen when you have a auto that only get 18 MPH at best?
Not that I am an SUV/truck defender. But how is there opinion of what they drive an error? It's an opinion.
I can definitely say a small SUV makes life with a small kid mych better.
Yes my wife and kid can travel in my camaro with a trunk full of groceries and we can even pick up an 8 foot Xmas tree all together in it. We did it. We still primarily use our g6 with the kid usually. When our family visits and they have a small suv, first thing we do is toss one into their truck.
Doesn't mean it was comfortable or convenient.
And these vehicles are getting 20s for fuel efficiency.
This wishful thinking about about Honda's poor reliability is simply a joke. Nothing bears it out. Styling? Well that is something that is purely your opinion. We all have those. Even with the shortages of cars to sell in the Summer, Honda still has Accord, Civic, and CR-V as top 20 sellers and they aren't at the bottom.
Our family has purchased 5 new Hondas since 2004. 04 Civic LX Coupe, 07 Accord SE, 06 Civic Coupe, and my wife and youngest daughter now each have a 2010 Accord SE. many miles later (lots of kid miles too) and we have had virtually zero issues with any of them. I guess that's poor quality. 5 different vehicles over a 6 year period is a pretty good sample.
Our Miata and GMC truck have been very reliable as well.
My neighbors Nissan and Toyota offerings have not been nearly as trouble free. In the same time period I have been through three transmissions in two different Ford company vehicles... but I don't bash Ford as being junk.
It simply reeks of hate (or envy) to post such unsubstantiated crap about anybody... much less Honda.
Honda is way behind the curve, for people that live in the past, hate cars and are scared to accept the truth. Their "Honduh" now sucks. Honda refuses to accept this and continues to sell average to their loyal fans who make up every excuse in the book to buy it and rationalize while its better.
Honda is better at one thing today. Making uglier cars than everyone else.
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Originally Posted by Everest209
People are finally realizing they have to do a little research and not just buy off of rep.
The gap between Honda,Toyota and everyone else is closing in fast. They'd better step it up.
Agreed, the gap has closed. Toyota seems to have gotten the memo, Honda relies on their loyal inept fans to sell average ugly crap to them.
I have a Civic parked in the back of the house, a 1987 Si. It shows around 257K on the odometer, and I have never had any major mechanical problems with it. Never used synthetic oil in it like a lot of us do these days, and it still does not burn a drop of oil. I use regular 5W-30 oil during the winter months, and 10W-40 during the summer. The alternator is the easiest to work on of any car I have ever had. For example, if the light comes on and I figure that it's from the alternator, I go to NAPA and buy a set of alternator brushes for it. Some of these brushes come soldered on the plastic holder as a kit, but sometimes they don't so I do it myself. The next step is to remove the old brush kit from the alternator, without removing the alternator from the motor (just loosen two small Phillips screws, and retrieve the kit), then use the same screws on the new brush kit. Now it's good for a few more years of driving
But one component is a little difficult to get at, and that's the water pump. I have replaced this component once, and every few years the brake pads and shoes. I have also replaced the CV-jpint boots (the crack every few years during the very cold Alaska winters). I replace the oil every 3,000 miles, too. The oil is usually NAPA brand, but I have used Castrol, and Quaker State (nothing fancy).
I have also replaced the heater blower (fan), the belts in the motor, and the timing belt around 100K miles.
This wishful thinking about about Honda's poor reliability is simply a joke.
I don't argue that they have extremely poor reliability. I Do argue however that reliability used to be something of a huge selling point for Honda, and they no longer can wave that flag. Almost all manufacturers short Subaru and Chrysler report 250K+ miles out of engine/tranny on a huge number of their vehicles, with little things here and there a possibility. The world has improved while Honda has remained stagnant at best; in fact, their automatic transmissions en masse are flat-out unreliable and terribly behind the times. Honda's reliability has gone down significantly since they switched leadership and moved to North America. I therefore believe that there is literally no reason to buy a Honda as they don't lead the pack in anything else at all beyond their now-mythical reputation for superior reliability.
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Originally Posted by Zembonez
Our family has purchased 5 new Hondas since 2004. 04 Civic LX Coupe, 07 Accord SE, 06 Civic Coupe, and my wife and youngest daughter now each have a 2010 Accord SE. many miles later (lots of kid miles too) and we have had virtually zero issues with any of them. I guess that's poor quality. 5 different vehicles over a 6 year period is a pretty good sample.
Our Miata and GMC truck have been very reliable as well.
Sounds like you've just had very good luck with cars. If all of your vehicles have been reliable, how do you conclude that Honda is an uber-reliable brand? The stats certainly don't back that up.
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Originally Posted by Zembonez
My neighbors Nissan and Toyota offerings have not been nearly as trouble free. In the same time period I have been through three transmissions in two different Ford company vehicles... but I don't bash Ford as being junk.
It simply reeks of hate (or envy) to post such unsubstantiated crap about anybody... much less Honda.
what exactly is unsubstantiated in my claims? I currently own a Honda. No envy here.
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