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Old 01-15-2012, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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None really. In another 5 years we'll know.
That is what baffles me why people flock to them.

Resale is crap...
Reliability history is crap...


Seems a couple people said they are now, great cars, so everyone says they are.


Don't get me wrong they may be great cars, but we won't know for awhile. but I chuckle when I see people say, I have 1-2 years and 15k miles and no problems!


I damn sure hope there are no problems, if there were it would be unacceptable. I have a 5 year old pontiac, and I put 65,000 miles on it. Only issues... Cracked windshield do to a rock bouncing up, power window module went out, had a soda spilled on it when my mom drove the car one day. And my car is considered unreliable.

Other then that... Fluids, brakes, tires, and average and ok fuel mpg, and has 224 hp.


Do admit I woudln't mind having this Hyundai

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/393887_325729464115651_159021127453153_1073447_169 1408799_n.jpg (broken link)


Enjuku Racing Hyundai Genesis SEMA Preview - YouTube
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Floribama
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Yeah I do admit the current line of Hyundais are very attractive, I like the Elantra and Sonata myself. In 5 more years if the long term reliability of the Sonata matches that of a Camry, I might consider one.

And when I say "reliability" I'm not talking about minor things like door handles or switches, I'm talking about how many miles can it go until transmission or engine failure. These are the things that send a car to the junkyard.
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Old 01-15-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Hyundais have excellent resale, just look at their ALG residual numbers. 36 months is around 57% for a Sonata and 60% for an Elantra.

My Optima isn't as good, yet. It has 50% for 36mo/15kyr but I still leased it because of the deal I got.
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Old 01-15-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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So what proof does hyundai and kia have that their cars now last a long time?
What proof do they need, with a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty?
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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What proof do they need, with a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty?
Add a * to that warranty, and deal with your car being in the shop every other month with no loaner. Its not like other companies aren't offering 100k mile warranties.


Just saying I was in college and around college kids and working with college kids from 2000-midway through 2010.

Obviously a heavy target for cheap appliance cars are kids off at college. It blew my mind how much of a pile of **** some of these cars were. Yes they had warranties on major stuff, it got weaseled out of, on minor stuff they fixed it, but could take 2-3 days, without a loaner car.


Just saying when you see a 5 year old car with 60k miles consume not leak, well leaked some, but consume nearly an entire oil pan of oil between changes, and Hyundai refuse to fix it(do you keep paperwork of every oil change? Did you put the right oil in? Did you check it? Do you drive improperly? That accident where someone backed into your in a parking lot, it might have affected driveability of the vehicle, etc... etc... ). Then go to trade in and be $4k upside down on it, do to **** resale.

Or a 1-2 year old Kia randomly die and not restart on the roads, and the car goes in the shop a few days each month, nothing fixes it. Forget not having a loaner for days.

Or another friend with like an 07 accent... paint flaked off the hood with less then 15k miles, once again hyundai states she must have seen some sort of adverse conditions, that affects it.



All this stuff is not that long ago... I mean its not like they merged with some company and using parts bin parts or designs from proven vehicles, like when GM started importing European and Australian vehicles and badging them american.


They just cleaned up the interiors and exteriors, and kept the same good price, which still makes me worry about the guts of the car. Especially since that old "great" price is starting to not get as good as it used to be.
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I've had my 2011 RSPEC Genesis Coupe (in tsukuba red) for about four months now and I'm loving the car. Better than my G35 in every way, and the RSPEC suspension along with Brembo brakes makes it a joy to drive. Shooting for 360whp this year (close to 400hp at the crank).


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Old 01-15-2012, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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What proof do they need, with a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty?
A 100k mile warranty is useless if the transmission dies at 105k. Most problems start popping up shortly after 100k.
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:56 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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A 100k mile warranty is useless if the transmission dies at 105k. Most problems start popping up shortly after 100k.
I have full faith in the reliability of my vehicle but even looking at the worst case scenario, I bought the car new and will sell it at 100k miles. I'm covered for as long as I own it.
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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I don't consider myself an expert on genesis's, just a little I pick up across the net from some import guys I used to hang out Orlando.


I heard once they start putting serious power to the ground the rear suspension points start ripping out of the chassis? Is this true?
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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I have full faith in the reliability of my vehicle but even looking at the worst case scenario, I bought the car new and will sell it at 100k miles. I'm covered for as long as I own it.
Is the 100k warranty powertrain or bumper to bumper?
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