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Old 05-21-2012, 04:37 PM
 
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Money.

First.
Get a business Lic.
A LLC should do.
Next get a EIN
Find a location. Is the location Zoned for this activity?
Buy tools and supply's.

Then call your Insurance agent and tell him you want insurance to cover your car detailing business.
He'll write you up a commercial liability policy.

Figure out your overhead and what your profit margin will be.
Next, are your prices competitive for the service?
Will you still make money?

Advertising. How? Cost?

Can you do it all alone?
Employe (s)
workman's comp insurance, pay role.

The best advice given so far is to first get a job doing this kind of work.
Try auto body shops.
Start as the clean up guy and show interest in the detailing or try a auto dealership some of them may still clean trade in's themselves.

With out some experience detailing and or with running a business it's going to be a uphill battle at best.



Lastly Advertising.
I don't know I want to open an automotive shop not a detailing shop. I'm just want to detailing as a side thing.
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:08 PM
 
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I don't know I want to open an automotive shop not a detailing shop. I'm just want to detailing as a side thing.
What do you think is the difference between an automotive shop and a detailing shop when it comes to the business of the business?

Snofarmer's list of essentials is universal in this frame.

If you are unable to grasp this concept, then you are a long way from moving from an entry level tech to a business owner ... of any business.

Veyron, if your business model is a guy doing $100 details and not operating as a legitimate business; ie, license, zoning, equipment, insurance ... you will be setting yourself up for a potential financial loss (as well as other potential tangles with tax authorities, zoning authorities, etc) that can well devastate your ability to be in or survive the business.

The fellow making $1,000 per weekend isn't doing it on $100 details by himself; he's got to have employees and equipment and even then, it may be his gross billings and not his net income that he's telling you about. Big difference ....

Here's another tip: Don't believe all the numbers you hear tossed about by anybody with a business unless you can get access to their business books and review them with a professional who knows what to look for. Tax returns help, too, to evaluate the real numbers.
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:18 PM
 
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I don't know I want to open an automotive shop not a detailing shop. I'm just want to detailing as a side thing.
What part of don't try to do this on the side are you not picking up on?
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:20 PM
 
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If you need to supplement your primary income you should be looking for a part time job not a part time business.
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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The tax man (irs) does not care if it is a "side business".
The city/state you live in wants it's sales tax and does not care if it is a side business.(some do not tax services some do, some only tax supplys and or products) Do you know?
Your neighbors may not like the traffic or your business. (zoning)
Mess up a paint job, now wouldn't insurance be nice.

No one cares if it's just a side job.



Give it a try, go rouge.
In no time the city will come and knock on your door and want to see your business Lic.
Why?
Because your competition does not like the new guy on the corner doing detail work as a lowballer or as a illegitimate business that is not playing on the sane field. (They turned you in).

It's a dog eat dog world, don't get caught wearing milk~bone underwear.

Good luck.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:24 PM
 
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If you need to supplement your primary income you should be looking for a part time job not a part time business.
There are no Part time jobs.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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The tax man (irs) does not care if it is a "side business".
The city/state you live in wants it's sales tax and does not care if it is a side business.(some do not tax services some do, some only tax supplys and or products) Do you know?
Your neighbors may not like the traffic or your business. (zoning)
Mess up a paint job, now wouldn't insurance be nice.

No one cares if it's just a side job.



Give it a try, go rouge.
In no time the city will come and knock on your door and want to see your business Lic.
Why?
Because your competition does not like the new guy on the corner doing detail work as a lowballer or as a illegitimate business that is not playing on the sane field. (They turned you in).

It's a dog eat dog world, don't get caught wearing milk~bone underwear.

Good luck.

I won't get caught. I'm just washing my cousins cars in my driveway every weekend. Whats wrong with that?
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:29 PM
 
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What do you think is the difference between an automotive shop and a detailing shop when it comes to the business of the business?

Snofarmer's list of essentials is universal in this frame.

If you are unable to grasp this concept, then you are a long way from moving from an entry level tech to a business owner ... of any business.

Veyron, if your business model is a guy doing $100 details and not operating as a legitimate business; ie, license, zoning, equipment, insurance ... you will be setting yourself up for a potential financial loss (as well as other potential tangles with tax authorities, zoning authorities, etc) that can well devastate your ability to be in or survive the business.

The fellow making $1,000 per weekend isn't doing it on $100 details by himself; he's got to have employees and equipment and even then, it may be his gross billings and not his net income that he's telling you about. Big difference ....

Here's another tip: Don't believe all the numbers you hear tossed about by anybody with a business unless you can get access to their business books and review them with a professional who knows what to look for. Tax returns help, too, to evaluate the real numbers.
You have some good points.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:29 PM
 
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There are no Part time jobs.
No part time jobs doing something you want to do or no part time jobs at all.

I work a main job that I love and pays okay, and 3 part time as needed jobs that I can't stand and pay sucks. But I have to do what I have to do.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:31 PM
 
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I won't get caught. I'm just washing my cousins cars in my driveway every weekend. Whats wrong with that?
If you lie to the previously mentioned authorities you will dig an even deeper hole.
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