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Old 05-24-2012, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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I fully understand the other options out there, also the durability of my car, and that there will always be faster cars out there.


In the end I was hoping for a ~400 hp, 6-speed car. I fully intended to build everything up as I went along.


I have an 1985 LG4 Z28. I kind of wanted to keep a stockish clean look. I have no real care for numbers matching or anything.

I know whats in with LS1 swaps, and even LT1 swaps. I even used to do OBDII tuning, but I like the idea of a traditional carbed small block. My car comes stock with a Carb(quadrajet) Runs fine as is(well couple quarks) I want more power in the end. I also intend to upgrade brakes(debating on setups as well, and will be building up suspension too.

In the end, I want a t-top 3rd gen, Manual tranny, and the 400hp range(350-450) I was trying to keep away from the LS/LT swaps for now, they are pricey, and alot of cutting. I don't care about top dog, I was looking more at good hp, but not too much. 400 seemed like good number but I may have to start adjusting.


I am a member on thirdgen.org, heck I have been on f-body websites since 1999. I was just browsing the small block world of non-f-body world for ideas and plans.


My first mods, are going to be subframes(actually got a wonderbar in teh mail today)
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:21 AM
 
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If you can find one, get yourself a 400 sbc. With todays head and cam technology, a 400 sbc can make an honest 400 hp without getting untame and they make good torque to boot too.

Or if you can spare for a stronger foundation, Dart makes a 400 sbc for around $1500. Add a set of AFR heads and don't go to radical on the cam, and you'll have one mean little street engine.

Now if you're looking for a 400 sbc crate engine...well a few companies sell those too, but they're pricey and are more geared at drag racing. More pricey than the GMPP 350 and 383 crate engines. I wished GMPP would come out with a 400 sbc street engine.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:59 AM
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If you can find one, get yourself a 400 sbc. With todays head and cam technology, a 400 sbc can make an honest 400 hp without getting untame and they make good torque to boot too.

Or if you can spare for a stronger foundation, Dart makes a 400 sbc for around $1500. Add a set of AFR heads and don't go to radical on the cam, and you'll have one mean little street engine.

Now if you're looking for a 400 sbc crate engine...well a few companies sell those too, but they're pricey and are more geared at drag racing. More pricey than the GMPP 350 and 383 crate engines. I wished GMPP would come out with a 400 sbc street engine.
Here is a nice 400CI not too expensive and all new parts.

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Old 05-25-2012, 10:22 AM
 
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Here is a nice 400CI not too expensive and all new parts.

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And we are back to $7k engines.

One of the reasons I did make this post was to source out other crate engine companies like this, that I didn't find on my own. Any word on the quality of their engines. As I said before I heard some places were kind of slapping junk together and painting it pretty. Just curious if there is any word of mouth.

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Old 05-25-2012, 10:29 AM
 
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Now something like this catches my eye along with their 365 HP 350.

http://www.tristarengines.com/catalo...num-heads.html

But I would have to look into the components I see good brand names but not sure if they are junk parts or not.

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Old 05-25-2012, 12:53 PM
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Now something like this catches my eye along with their 365 HP 350.

383 Stroker 425 HP 460 Torque*Street/Strip

But I would have to look into the components I see good brand names but not sure if they are junk parts or not.

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Big difference in the two engines. Your not going to get a Dart block, Dart heads, all forged internals, 500+ HP for $3,000.

$7,000 is a good price for that engine.

If you can't justify the price then go for the cheaper engine which is probably good enough for the street.
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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Big difference in the two engines. Your not going to get a Dart block, Dart heads, all forged internals, 500+ HP for $3,000.

$7,000 is a good price for that engine.

If you can't justify the price then go for the cheaper engine which is probably good enough for the street.
I am not saying its not a great engine, just its beyond what I am looking for.
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Old 05-26-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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Small Clock Chevy.

In the talk of becoming a machinest thread, I saw people saying you can buy cheaper then building. I have browsed some and still haven't made my final opinion.


I eventually plan to put a ~400 hp small block chevy in my car.(85 Camaro) I was just curious what are opinions of people here for meeting that goal?

Build a block or buy. If I am building it. I will have to have some work done by an engine shop. I can assemble it just fine. (I actually have rebuilt recip aircraft engines) I also will need to source a good block to build.


If people are buying an engine where are they looking for it.

If you do not have a decent motor to start with then just pick up a crate engine. It's easier and 99% of the time cheaper. If you have a decent 4 bolt block the by all means have it rebuilt. You can do a 383 for around $2500 if you have some of the part already. Keep in mind that 400HP is nothing for these motors with stock cast cranks living long lives in 400+HP street cars and stock steel cranks living in 600+HP cars.

Point is you don't need to get carried away to make 400HP with a SBC.
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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I have an 85 305 lg4 in great shape, owner said he replaced rear main, and valve seats. Does not puff any black smoke, leak or do anything wrong. Except be a 85 LG4 in an old car.

I had planned whatever I had to upgrade, I also planned to build up an engine then swap it in without having a dead car for awhile.

Used smallblocks are only like $200-600. I was also looking at roller motors, maybe a vortec.

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Old 05-26-2012, 03:20 PM
 
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Rollers are the way to go if you can afford it.
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