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Old 03-13-2016, 03:20 PM
 
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Good, that means better residual value as well for my 2004 Subaru that I want to sell in the next year or two.
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Old 03-13-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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The ownership costs, the true cost of owning a vehicle, are superior with Subaru.

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I like Subaru. I like the fact that they are AWD. You can drive them for ever. I also think their practical and austere look, is not cheap, but far from flashy.

Never had any trouble with one. I like the look. Personally, I don't want to be too comfortable while driving. I am behind the wheel of a motor vehicle, not on a lounge chair.

Hondas don't do much for me.

We have two Subarus. One of my son's lives in Vermont. We travel to VT and NH quite a bit. He has one too. We also ski. These are reliable cars.
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Old 03-13-2016, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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The ownership costs, the true cost of owning a vehicle, are superior with Subaru.
How is that?

I have owned Subaru, Honda, Ford, GMC, Suzuki, and now Toyota, and didn't see any difference between Honda and Subaru in regards to cost. The one I have spent the most has been the GMC truck, on maintenance. So far my wife's Rav4 V6, and my Toyota Corolla have been quite good in relation to cost. I didn't pay much for a 2012 Corolla two years ago, and so for the 2010 Rav4 from a 2009 Forester trade at the dealer. The trade cost me around $8K, but my wife paid for the Rav4 two years after the trade. The Corolla cost me $14K (it had around 17,000 miles), and my wife paid for it two years later. All that has been needed has been oil and filters every six months.

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Old 03-13-2016, 05:15 PM
 
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Compare the actual ownership costs...it is more than just maintenance.

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How is that?

I have owned Subaru, Honda, Ford, GMC, Suzuki, and now Toyota, and didn't see any difference between Honda and Subaru in regards to cost. The one I have spent the most has been the GMC truck, on maintenance. So far my wife's Rav4 V6, and my Toyota Corolla have been quite good in relation to cost. I didn't pay much for a 2012 Corolla two years ago, and so for the 2010 Rav4 from a 2009 Forester trade at the dealer. The trade cost me around $8K, but my wife paid for the Rav4 two years after the trade. The Corolla cost me $14K (it had around 17,000 miles), and my wife paid for it two years later. All that has been needed has been oil and filters every six months.

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Old 03-13-2016, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Compare the actual ownership costs...it is kore than just maintenance.
Yes, and I said that I didn't pay too much for both. When I traded the 2009 Forester for the 2010 Rav4 V6 (both with perhaps 16,000 miles on the odometer), the difference was around $8K for the Toyota (one year newer, plus a V6). Both a 2009 4-cylinder Rav4 and a normally aspirated 2009 Forester would have cost about the same.

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Old 03-13-2016, 06:06 PM
 
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Ownership costs are not solely what you pay for it, that is the biggest misconception.


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Yes, and I said that I didn't pay too much for both. When I traded the 2009 Forester for the 2010 Rav4 V6 (both with perhaps 16,000 miles on the odometer), the difference was around $8K for the Toyota (one year newer, plus a V6). Both a 2009 4-cylinder Rav4 and a normally aspirated 2009 Forester would have cost about the same.
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Old 03-13-2016, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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Ownership costs are not solely what you pay for it, that is the biggest misconception.
Got it. This:
Cost of Vehicle Ownership - Consumer Reports
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Old 03-15-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: WNC
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The 2001 Subaru Forester was a colossal disappointment. Needed so much work over the years. With a Subaru it is not a question of if you'll need an engine rebuild due to the head gasket going but when... unless you get rid of it before it hits 90k. I have had much better experience with Honda and Toyota...

that was mainly in 98-05 2.5 motors. The headgasket failures arent really an issue anymore.
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Old 03-15-2016, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Not far from Fairbanks, AK
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that was mainly in 98-05 2.5 motors. The headgasket failures arent really an issue anymore.
There are still head gasket problems creeping in up to the Forester 2010. Look it up at the Subaru forums, and at some mechanic shops online.

Nothing official here, but you can see similar problems at the Subaru forums:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2672476

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Old 03-16-2016, 04:10 AM
 
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Thanks, but we are talking about 2016, not 6 years ago.


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There are still head gasket problems creeping in up to the Forester 2010. Look it up at the Subaru forums, and at some mechanic shops online.

Nothing official here, but you can see similar problems at the Subaru forums:
When did Subaru fix the N/A head gasket issue? - NASIOC
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