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Old 02-19-2013, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Pay a fee to buy from a dealer?
My opinion, screw them.
If they want my business, no added fees.
I'll pay the sticker price, and that's it.
That would be like shopping at Walmart, and when everything is rung up at the register, the
"store fee" for picking Walmart is added to the total.
What the hell is with that?

Bob.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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Friend my former BIL was a new car salesman. He told me that at most dealers they could quickly produce "invoices" and any other "document" they want quickly to make the sale. When you start trying to see what fee is this and what extra charge is that you can have a hard time because they are experts at using smoke and mirrors....All you can do is nail them down to a FINAL price and then take it or leave it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:55 PM
 
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I've never paid a dealer fee and I never will...
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:56 PM
 
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Friend my former BIL was a new car salesman. He told me that at most dealers they could quickly produce "invoices" and any other "document" they want quickly to make the sale. When you start trying to see what fee is this and what extra charge is that you can have a hard time because they are experts at using smoke and mirrors....All you can do is nail them down to a FINAL price and then take it or leave it.
Hence why I use TrueCar and then negotiate everything via email so I can research. If they won't discuss via email and want me to "come in" I move on after all the sale is on my terms
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Vallejo
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I'll pay $75 or so for the DMV paper work to be processed. It does take some time, maybe 30 minutes or so. Plus there's the value of NOT dealing with the DMV.

Around here, they all like to put MSRP plus a $2,995 "market rate adjustment." When I bought my Mazda, they forgot to put it on the sticker and were like "you're getting such a great deal, we messed up..." Right. =D The Honda dealer immediately before played four square on me. God I hate the four square.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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I am sorry to be ignorant, but what is "the four square" ? Thanks , :-)
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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I am sorry to be ignorant, but what is "the four square" ? Thanks , :-)
It's a dealer tactic that dealers use using a worksheet divided into four squares. Then manipulates a good deal FOR THEM by skipping over parts and focusing on monthly payments for example. As I don't feel like explaining it, I just pulled an article that goes into some detail about it.
Dealerships Rip You Off With The "Four-Square," Here's How To Beat It
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:25 PM
 
Location: FL
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Dealer fee comes into play as an additional profit center to be negotiated.

If an agreed upon price for a vehicle is "$X", and the dealer than adds the dealer fee to that, than the agreed upon price is a higher figure. It's simply another sales tactic to add profit back into a deal, especially when you're in the area of $400-800 fees.

Better to negotiate to an agreed price for the vehicle "OTD" (out the door).

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