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Old 05-21-2013, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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i'd wonder how legal that app/device would be, meaning if someone thought they were under the limit and got stopped and blew over the limit, could they challenge it in court based on their smartphone saying they were ok? And how do they prove it?
Even the breathalyzers police carry in the field aren't admissible as evidence of your BAC; they're only used to establish probable cause to drag you into the station where they take a blood sample to get a more accurate reading that is admissible.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:39 AM
 
Location: The 12th State
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Even the breathalyzers police carry in the field aren't admissible as evidence of your BAC; they're only used to establish probable cause to drag you into the station where they take a blood sample to get a more accurate reading that is admissible.

Blood samples where that is done at? Maybe its in the locality where your at but here in NC after the officer uses his hand unit at the station they use one that is hook to a digital machine that records the amount.
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: WI
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Even the breathalyzers police carry in the field aren't admissible as evidence of your BAC; they're only used to establish probable cause to drag you into the station where they take a blood sample to get a more accurate reading that is admissible.
i did not know that, interesting. Of course not having a drink in 25 years, it's been a long time since i worried about potential DUI's
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Old 05-21-2013, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Blood samples where that is done at? Maybe its in the locality where your at but here in NC after the officer uses his hand unit at the station they use one that is hook to a digital machine that records the amount.
It's either a blood sample, urine sample, or a more accurate breathalyzer machine at the station. In either case, the field test taken with the hand-held device when you are pulled over is not admissible as evidence of your BAC; only the results taken at the station are. This is true in NC as well.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: White House, TN
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People are quite significantly impaired as drunk driving when their BAC is .07, or .06, or .05. I agree with the limit. Driving is no place to be fooling around.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Wappingers Falls, NY
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People are quite significantly impaired as drunk driving when their BAC is .07, or .06, or .05. I agree with the limit. Driving is no place to be fooling around.
define "quite significantly impaired."
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:40 AM
 
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define "quite significantly impaired."
Alcohol breath, apparently.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Wappingers Falls, NY
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You have to be careful, especially since "quite significantly impaired" describes 90% of Americans that get behind the wheel without their morning coffee. And 80% of the ones that get behind the wheel WITH it.

It's important to be specific. What exactly does a BAC of 0.05 impair to such a level that justifies not allowing driving? And to what level is it impaired?
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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Let's treat the problem like so many rant about guns. TAKE THE BOOZE AWAY! Yeah that worked real well didn't it.

We need "accountability". Drive drunk, you are fined 10k, no if and or buts about it. Make the penalty severe, and it will go way down. But that again is a States Rights Issue, not some unelected bureaucracy in DC.
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Old 05-21-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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CDL = driving is your profession. Similar DUI restrictions are in place for a number of professions. I can see your point to blanket zero tolerance, but it is akin to prohibition and the jail system wouldn't ever be able to catch or hold all the offenders.

Unreasonable laws are commonly ignored - this is one reason so many people speed.
Bring back the roadside chain gangs that they used to have in the South. That would make drunks think twice. But the lib's would be all over that now wouldn't they.
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