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Old 06-19-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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Top 5 for least problems per 100 vehicles:
Porsche 80
GMC 90
Lexus 94
Infiniti 95
Chevrolet 97

The worst:
MINI 135
Nissan 142
Mitsubishi 148
Fiat 154
Scion 161

J.D. Power's changes don't necessarily sit well with the auto industry. The industry-level scores come with a margin of error of seven problems, plus or minus; Chrysler could be as good as Toyota or as bad as Land Rover. The sample size for an individual model has to be a minimum of 100, but few cars get more than a few hundred surveys (J.D. Power didn't get enough surveys to grade Tesla.) Trahan says while he's "frustrated" with some of Power's methodology, the results are "directionally correct" — meaning for the next few years, automakers will have to pay more attention to not just whether their cars work, but how.
http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...165902281.html
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Prosper
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There is no substitute.
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Old 06-20-2013, 05:04 AM
 
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I find it odd that Infiniti is in the top 5 and nissan is in the worse 5. I also find it odd that Scion is at the bottom and Honda is not on the top 5 but Chevrolet is.
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Old 06-20-2013, 05:46 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX USA
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I find it odd that Infiniti is in the top 5 and nissan is in the worse 5. I also find it odd that Scion is at the bottom and Honda is not on the top 5 but Chevrolet is.
Honda isn't what it use to be. For a long time they have been coasting on reputation, and now its come back to bite them in the butt.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:00 AM
 
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One of the biggest problems with some of these surveys is people only feel them out when there's a problem hoping to win a free cupcake as a concession.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:16 AM
 
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I find it odd that Infiniti is in the top 5 and nissan is in the worse 5. I also find it odd that Scion is at the bottom and Honda is not on the top 5 but Chevrolet is.
I recently saw another article saying that Chevrolet makes some of the most reliable cars out there now.
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Prosper
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Guys, read the article. The survey doesn't just capture things that are actually wrong with the vehicle. It focuses on the design of the vehicle, and the ease of use. It gives the Ford MyTouch system as an example, it may be working properly, but it's a hassle for the owner, so when they complain about it, that counts as a point.
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Central Texas
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The JD Power initial quality survey is garbage. It is just the first 90 days of ownership.

That's why Jaguar can be in ratings other than at the bottom. The dealers slobber over the owners (just like Porsche) so owners are generally happy even if things aren't quite right. Ford is suffering because of MyFordTouch and those dealers don't suck up to Fusion owners.

A few years later, Jaguar will be near the bottom. So will Range Rover. Porsche will fall. Honda, Toyota, Lexus, etc. will rise. Chevy will be in the middle. Dodge will be low. I predict Fiat will stay low.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:09 AM
 
Location: NY
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This survey in how it is designed and given is about as useful in evaluating the quality or reliability of a new car as a t-shirt is in staying warm in a blizzard.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The J.D. Power Initial Quality Study, which serves as the industry benchmark for new-vehicle quality, has been redesigned for 2013. The study has been enhanced to better measure the quality of today's vehicles, particularly problems related to new technologies and features now being offered. In addition, the study, now in its 27th year, allows for more detailed feedback from new-vehicle owners.

Nearly two-thirds of the problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership are related to the vehicle's design, as opposed to components that malfunction. For example, the component may be working as designed, but owners deem it a problem because it may be difficult to understand or operate.
Here's next year's JD Powers' Initial Quality Winner:

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