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Old 03-04-2014, 10:49 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Ahh yes the 2.0L Turbocharged 4-cyl. It consumes more gas, makes less power, is much less refined and less reliable than a N/A V6
Maybe because US lags behind other countries in turbo engine development today. VW has offered a turbo 4 for many years in the GTI, Jetta, and Passat and offers good power and fuel economy than their V6 models.

Refinement is subjective because turbo is an on/off effect that only someone skilled driving a stick can control the power on tap.

On a turbo charged car I can drive it slowly and get it to 30mpg+ on the street or make it go fast and it will sip fuel. On a V6 you can't disable 2 cylinders to conserve fuel.

Turbo charged engines are always more reliable than V6 engines because by design they can handle more pressures than NA engines. A turbo charger can die but that's easily fixable.

You have very little knowledge of turbocharging and that's why so little engine choices are offered in the US because people like you.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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You have very little knowledge of turbocharging and that's why so little engine choices are offered in the US because people like you.
What makes this little quip all the more hilarious is that it was almost certainly typed with a straight face and not a hint of irony.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Wappingers Falls, NY
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Ahh yes the 2.0L Turbocharged 4-cyl. It consumes more gas, makes less power, is much less refined and less reliable than a N/A V6
Clearly written by someone with a rather reddish shade of neck. Real car guys are into turbo4s. They're a unique and interesting challenge. Driven right you get the power of a V6 and the fuel economy of an I4. Unless of course your idea of "driving" is mashing the accelerator and heading straight ahead.

SKILL driving is about keeping an I4T under boost to save fuel, until boost is needed, and then getting out of boost when no longer needed.

It might help if manufacturers put some sort of boost indicator on the dash though. Generally they don't.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Clearly written by someone with a rather reddish shade of neck.
Yeah, that group is most often associated with defending and advocating for the V6.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:43 PM
 
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It might help if manufacturers put some sort of boost indicator on the dash though. Generally they don't.
Oh, but they do.



(though, in fairness, the Focus ST is the exception and not the norm)
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:44 PM
 
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Yeah, that's the cohort most often associated with defending and advocating for the V6.
Would be interesting to see how that group of fine folk responds to the 'luminum twin-turbo V6 F-150.
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Old 03-05-2014, 12:55 AM
 
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Would be interesting to see how that group of fine folk responds to the 'luminum twin-turbo V6 F-150.
They won't. They'll pretend it doesn't exist.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:29 AM
 
Location: East Terrell Hills
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I'm guessing that certain engines fail to meet Uncle Sam's standards on emissions. It is the same situation when it comes to Asian models. I'd give my eye tooth for a Japanese Spec Honda Civic Type-R.
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Old 03-05-2014, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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It is because your gument is looking out for you.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:20 AM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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It pisses me off,because most of the type-R Hondas have more horsepower in Europe.
The fact that Honda never brought the Type-R Accord to the U.S. is Bullcrap
Don't get me Started on Toyota
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