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Old 11-12-2013, 08:25 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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Clearly you've never participated in a LeMons race. Safety equipment is not included in the $500 cap, none of that crap is except for an engine rebuild.

Read section 4.

24 Hours of LeMons - Prices & Rules
Oh my friend you are wrong we have that much invested in our BMW, of course we are one of the cars that actually can run at speed for 24 hrs.
You must be with the group that craps out after an hour.
BTW our car is a legit $500 car.
Car $500
four race suits
& helmets
radios
Roll cage
Fuel cell
Engine rebuild and tune
Complete suspension rebuild to stock
Spare tires and wheels
pit supplies fuel cans
Trailer

Put in some numbers and tell me what you come up with I know what we spend.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Poway, CA
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Don't know if this counts, but I used to Auto-X my Scion xB (yes, you read that right). But, ever since I got into motorcycle track days, I've given up on Auto-X. WAY more bang-for-the-buck in terms of fun and time on track.

Tracks I've done so far on the bike: Auto Club Speedway (Fontana), Chuckwalla Valley Raceway, Willow Springs (Big Willow and Streets of Willow), and Spring Mountain Motorsports Ranch (2.4mi configuration). I'll be running Buttonwillow (Configuration 13, CW) for the first time the Saturday after Turkey Day.

Mike
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Prosper
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Oh my friend you are wrong we have that much invested in our BMW, blah blah blah


One more person proving the stereotype about BMW drivers is true.
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:38 AM
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Location: The Sand Hills of NC
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One more person proving the stereotype about BMW drivers is true.
No I drive a Mustang but am invested in a BMW Lemons car because we know of their track record.

Got any more smart ass remarks.
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Old 11-12-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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Pardon folks but what do you mean by a $500 car? I understand a Lemons Race is one involving a well worn older vehicle. But $500?

Disregard. I read the Rules link above and saw that it really is $500. Hard to keep that honest with how people fiddle with receipts I wager.
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Prosper
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No I drive a Mustang but am invested in a BMW Lemons car because we know of their track record.

Got any more smart ass remarks.
No. I'm content to let you think you know what you're talking about. Carry on.
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Old 11-12-2013, 08:54 PM
 
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LeMons let's you sell parts off the car to bring the actual investment to $500. You could buy a car for, say, $1500 and sell the interior for $500, sell the stereo for $200, sell the wheels for $300... Then you have a $500 car. There is also residual value if you're dumb enough to keep bringing the same car back to race. This is negotiated with the chief perp for Lemons. It's not unusual to get like a $300 residual and then you can spend $200 on the car. Springs/struts and things like that become affordable.

The safety stuff can get expensive, roll cages are required and other things like cut-off switches and what not. I don't recall all the specifics. I've been on 2 teams and had a great time, although we never did worth a damn. The best we ever did was around 10th or so at a Chump Car race at VIR. Their rules are a lot tougher.
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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I've done Lime Rock many times. Done VIR, Watkins Glen, all the Poconos' configurations. I did COTA this year
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:54 PM
 
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I have never seen any opportunity to drive a track alone, you are always put in a group with similar skills and a set of appropriate rules for passing, etc. The track operator must have some insurance, emergency service, corner workers, and track management so without a good number of participants they cannot afford to run an event.
Look up Time Trials. Its track day + normally 2.5 timed laps with no traffic.
I hate traffic
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Old 11-19-2013, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Coastal Connecticut
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Look up Time Trials. Its track day + normally 2.5 timed laps with no traffic.
I hate traffic
My insurance actually covers HPDE's.

As soon as it's timed, you're S.O.L. if you crash.

Not even specialty track insurance will cover that.
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